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Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 4:15 pm

Constantine wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 2:39 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 2:02 pm So what's the deal here? is Constantine a spare account created by GrandWizard22 to use after he gets banned for all the nasty stuff he's written about jews and black people?

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 2:06 pm



And gay people.

There two replies have nothing to do with the topic at hand. And I'm pro LGBT. I just want more categorical rigor, less wokeness and not inventing imaginary terms.

So what is Harbals solution to actual racism. Actual racism. What is Flash Dangerpants? Again.... actual racism. Woke is racism. You can't fight racism with racism and expect positive results.

K: and once again, to say "WOKE is racism" you have to actually
prove this... where is the evidence that ''WOKISM" is in fact,
racist? these statements are broad statements that play into
prior biases, prejudices, but do they have any factual basis?

Kropotkin

Wonkers are obsessed with race. They barely talk about anything else. They constantly refer to the 'mythical state of being' called 'white privilege', which apparently means that if you are born 'white' then you are naturally superior to everyone else and most fortunate indeed! Your life will be all milk and honey and you won't have to make any effort whatsoever to achieve all the wonders you desire. If this isn't 'white supremacy' then I don't know what is.

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 3:33 pm

Constantine wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 2:39 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 2:02 pm So what's the deal here? is Constantine a spare account created by GrandWizard22 to use after he gets banned for all the nasty stuff he's written about jews and black people?

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 2:06 pm



And gay people.

There two replies have nothing to do with the topic at hand. And I'm pro LGBT. I just want more categorical rigor, less wokeness and not inventing imaginary terms.

So what is Harbals solution to actual racism. Actual racism. What is Flash Dangerpants? Again.... actual racism. Woke is racism. You can't fight racism with racism and expect positive results.

My solution is to make all the races look the same, and get everyone to speak English. That should calm things down for a bit, until we find another basis on which to discriminate against one another. It's part of our nature, I'm afraid; we are a very tribal species.

Isn't that what the English have always done? Interesting (and 'convenient') how wonky the English have become, while STILL slaughtering people in other countries and calling murderers like Prince Harry 'heroes' because the people they are murdering look different and speak a different language.
Wonky hypocrisy on steroids. Heck, the English were even still murdering the Irish into the 2000s after hundreds of years of a systematic campaign of genocide and they are white and speak the same language!

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:13 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 3:33 pm

Constantine wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 2:39 pm

There two replies have nothing to do with the topic at hand. And I'm pro LGBT. I just want more categorical rigor, less wokeness and not inventing imaginary terms.

So what is Harbals solution to actual racism. Actual racism. What is Flash Dangerpants? Again.... actual racism. Woke is racism. You can't fight racism with racism and expect positive results.

My solution is to make all the races look the same, and get everyone to speak English. That should calm things down for a bit, until we find another basis on which to discriminate against one another. It's part of our nature, I'm afraid; we are a very tribal species.

Isn't that what the English have always done? Interesting (and 'convenient') how wonky the English have become, while STILL slaughtering people in other countries and calling murderers like Prince Harry 'heroes' because the people they are murdering look different and speak a different language.
Wonky hypocrisy on steroids. Heck, the English were even still murdering the Irish into the 1980s, and they are white and speak the same language! Btw, have they ever apologised for that?

I don't know. Although I am an Englishman myself, and have always lived in England, I don't have a lot to do with the English, or anybody else, really.

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:20 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:13 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 3:33 pm

My solution is to make all the races look the same, and get everyone to speak English. That should calm things down for a bit, until we find another basis on which to discriminate against one another. It's part of our nature, I'm afraid; we are a very tribal species.

Isn't that what the English have always done? Interesting (and 'convenient') how wonky the English have become, while STILL slaughtering people in other countries and calling murderers like Prince Harry 'heroes' because the people they are murdering look different and speak a different language.
Wonky hypocrisy on steroids. Heck, the English were even still murdering the Irish into the 1980s, and they are white and speak the same language! Btw, have they ever apologised for that?

I don't know. Although I am an Englishman myself, and have always lived in England, I don't have a lot to do with the English, or anybody else, really.

So not much idea of your own history and current goings on then?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:25 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:20 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:13 pm

Isn't that what the English have always done? Interesting (and 'convenient') how wonky the English have become, while STILL slaughtering people in other countries and calling murderers like Prince Harry 'heroes' because the people they are murdering look different and speak a different language.
Wonky hypocrisy on steroids. Heck, the English were even still murdering the Irish into the 1980s, and they are white and speak the same language! Btw, have they ever apologised for that?

I don't know. Although I am an Englishman myself, and have always lived in England, I don't have a lot to do with the English, or anybody else, really.

So not much idea of your own history and current goings on then?

Only the basics.

If the English want to be taken seriously as a wonky nation, then throwing out that spoilt prat of a king and his awful slapper of a wife would be a good start

There would be great rejoicing in the fox community...

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:29 pm If the English want to be taken seriously as a wonky nation, then throwing out that spoilt prat of a king and his awful slapper of a wife would be a good start

There would be great rejoicing in the fox community...

I'm not particularly fond of them, but it's not like I have to live next door to them, or anything.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:57 pm Mood music

How can you pick a side when you think they are both wrong?

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:06 pm

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:57 pm Mood music

How can you pick a side when you think they are both wrong?

I was indirectly commenting on Veggie’s anti-Tory position through reference to Scotsman Dick Gaughan’s activist stance in his music.

I am unsure what you are referring to. But perhaps you are taking “what side are you on” to mean something different (?)

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:47 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:06 pm

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:57 pm Mood music

How can you pick a side when you think they are both wrong?

I was indirectly commenting on Veggie’s anti-Tory position through reference to Scotsman Dick Gaughan’s activist stance in his music.

I am unsure what you are referring to. But perhaps you are taking “what side are you on” to mean something different (?)

I don't recall mentioning the 'Tories'. Isn't that an English thing?

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:47 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 9:06 pm

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:57 pm Mood music

How can you pick a side when you think they are both wrong?

I was indirectly commenting on Veggie’s anti-Tory position through reference to Scotsman Dick Gaughan’s activist stance in his music.

I am unsure what you are referring to. But perhaps you are taking “what side are you on” to mean something different (?)

I suppose I was thinking of the miners' strike of 1984. A clash of ideologies, neither of which I had much sympathy with. It has nothing to do with racism; just ignore me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaS3vaN ... 1nMcCarthy

Is it 'racist' to say the English are a bunch of cunts?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 10:23 pm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaS3vaN ... 1nMcCarthy

Is it 'racist' to say the English are a bunch of cunts?

The man man who lives next door but one to me seems nice enough; I certainly wouldn't describe him as a ****.


How come you are allowed to say cunts, but not ****?

It seems one **** is unacceptable, but a bunch of them is fine.

Harbal wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 10:43 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 10:23 pm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaS3vaN ... 1nMcCarthy

Is it 'racist' to say the English are a bunch of cunts?

The man man who lives next door but one to me seems nice enough; I certainly wouldn't describe him as a ****.


How come you are allowed to say cunts, but not ****?

It seems one **** is unacceptable, but a bunch of them is fine.

Perhaps it's acceptable when 'English' is used in the same sentence?