A question of balance for Dattaswami

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Re: A question of balance for Dattaswami

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Iwannaplato wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:26 pm
Walker wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:44 pm You seem to know his aim, perhaps you're right.
Well, it's not for philosophical discussion and this is not the only discussion forum he's filling.
These orgs need new blood for work and money and then simply the desire to spread his memes. You keeping that semen in the spine, it's the only thing like procreation.....
https://www.universal-spirituality.org/
Interesting comment. That could be the reason for the natural occurance of an enlarged prostate at an age when knowledge has accumlated and awareness turns inward for answers. It's a natural energy source.

- Interesting link. I glanced at the bio and the proclamation that he is the Saraswati River of Knowledge.

- Saraswati is in my bones.
- No wonder his words are so recognizable and the gist is apparent in the avalanche of info.
- I even told him in a posting that she and I are tight.
- I didn't even know he is proclaimed to be the Saraswati River of Knowledge.
- Saraswati was also an actual river.

- I have no need of his site but it looks pretty awesome for seekers.
- I have sought, and I have found.

- Here’s what I find relevant, if not amusing.
- Lacewing made an enquiry into energy.
- She invited any and all participation.
- And look who showed up with his engraved invitation.
- The actual River of Energy himself.
- The Role of Energy showed up in the form of, human.
- And he’s not all dried up.
- He's not all fenced in under starry skies above.

- Maybe that's the problem. The man she summoned is not all dried up. :wink:

Moral of the story?
- Be careful what you wish for 'cause when you're wishing, you don't know what you're gonna get.
- If you don’t like the answers, then you know to not ask the questions ... or petition for participation.
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Re: A question of balance for Dattaswami

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Walker wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:00 pm Moral of the story?
- Be careful what you wish for 'cause when you're wishing, you don't know what you're gonna get.
- If you don’t like the answers, then you know to not ask the questions ... or petition for participation.
Well, we're all human. We make mistakes, even our gurus here.
Perhaps Lacewing made a mistake.
But that's better than being an unwelcome intruder too insensitive to back off or adjust.
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Re: A question of balance for Dattaswami

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- I recently heard the word "mistake," somewhere else on the forum. May have been you.

- Surely, you must be familiar with the philosophy of, No Mistakes Only Situations.


- It's more of an elevated view.

- The Principle is Equanimity.

- Take life as it comes and evolve from that.
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Re: A question of balance for Dattaswami

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Walker wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:48 pm - I recently heard the word "mistake," somewhere else on the forum. May have been you.

- Surely, you must be familiar with the philosophy of, No Mistakes Only Situations.


- It's more of an elevated view.

- The Principle is Equanimity.

- Take life as it comes and evolve from that.
Life isn't just outside us, it's inside us. Equanity is code for not feeling certain things.
Take the inner life as it comes or how will you ever take the outer life.
If you take the inner life as it comes, well equanimity will either mean something new or be a thing of the past.
And you don't have to hit yourself in the head for making a mistake.
So many want to leave their bodies through the crown of their heads.
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Re: A question of balance for Dattaswami

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Iwannaplato wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:53 pm
Walker wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:48 pm - I recently heard the word "mistake," somewhere else on the forum. May have been you.

- Surely, you must be familiar with the philosophy of, No Mistakes Only Situations.


- It's more of an elevated view.

- The Principle is Equanimity.

- Take life as it comes and evolve from that.
Life isn't just outside us, it's inside us. Equanity is code for not feeling certain things.
Take the inner life as it comes or how will you ever take the outer life.
If you take the inner life as it comes, well equanimity will either mean something new or be a thing of the past.
And you don't have to hit yourself in the head for making a mistake.
So many want to leave their bodies through the crown of their heads.
Then inner becomes the outer, when you and the guru are responding to stimuli with the same thoughts.

This is the crux of guru yoga, and the realization that this is perpetually happening, that the guru is not only inside your head but is thinking your thoughts, or perhaps you are thinking his thoughts, and this is the meaning of the inner becoming the outer.

For that to happen you must immerse in the gyatso of compassion.

It is the ultimate transmorgrification of duality, into the experience of non-duality.


Like it or not, judge it as you will, that is the dynamic and meaning of the outer becoming the inner, the practice of guru yoga, as no doubt is known by dattaswami within his tradition.
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Re: A question of balance for Dattaswami

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Walker wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:48 pm - I recently heard the word "mistake," somewhere else on the forum. May have been you.

- Surely, you must be familiar with the philosophy of, No Mistakes Only Situations.


- It's more of an elevated view.
Walker...
6 Reasons It’s Always a Mistake to Think of Yourself as a Victim
You make an obvious mistake....
(see the mistake in the clip?)
Women make the mistake of thinking that men want a living doll.
His greatest mistake was his last.
Stupid mistake by the dispatcher.
And so on, and there is a so on....

So, if you're going to play little spiritual dominance games, clean up your own house.
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Re: A question of balance for Dattaswami

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Walker wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:01 pm Then inner becomes the outer, when you and the guru are responding to stimuli with the same thoughts.]
Ant hills need drones.
This is the crux of guru yoga, and the realization that this is perpetually happening, that the guru is not only inside your head but is thinking your thoughts, or perhaps you are thinking his thoughts, and this is the meaning of the inner becoming the outer.
I can see I reminded you of something unrelated.
For that to happen you must immerse in the gyatso of compassion.
Must one? That's going to make it hard to accept yourself, if you listen to those who say you must feel this (and not that)
Like it or not, judge it as you will, that is the dynamic and meaning of the outer becoming the inner, the practice of guru yoga, as no doubt is known by dattaswami within his tradition.
I am sure he would agree though with other abstractions, perhaps. Subtle self-hatred draws multitudes.
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Re: A question of balance for Dattaswami

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Walker wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:01 pm
Then inner becomes the outer, when you and the guru are responding to stimuli with the same thoughts.

This is the crux of guru yoga, and the realization that this is perpetually happening, that the guru is not only inside your head but is thinking your thoughts, or perhaps you are thinking his thoughts, and this is the meaning of the inner becoming the outer.

For that to happen you must immerse in the gyatso of compassion.

It is the ultimate transmorgrification of duality, into the experience of non-duality.


Like it or not, judge it as you will, that is the dynamic and meaning of the outer becoming the inner, the practice of guru yoga, as no doubt is known by dattaswami within his tradition.
Why don't you get yourself a loin cloth and go live in India, Walker?
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Re: A question of balance for Dattaswami

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Harbal wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:47 pm
Walker wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:01 pm
Then inner becomes the outer, when you and the guru are responding to stimuli with the same thoughts.

This is the crux of guru yoga, and the realization that this is perpetually happening, that the guru is not only inside your head but is thinking your thoughts, or perhaps you are thinking his thoughts, and this is the meaning of the inner becoming the outer.

For that to happen you must immerse in the gyatso of compassion.

It is the ultimate transmorgrification of duality, into the experience of non-duality.


Like it or not, judge it as you will, that is the dynamic and meaning of the outer becoming the inner, the practice of guru yoga, as no doubt is known by dattaswami within his tradition.
Why don't you get yourself a loin cloth and go live in India, Walker?
You react with an insult because walker is suggesting something other than an insult? Why not instead react to his ideas instead of resorting to childish insults attacking his character?
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Re: A question of balance for Dattaswami

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Dimebag wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 12:56 am You react with an insult because walker is suggesting something other than an insult? Why not instead react to his ideas instead of resorting to childish insults attacking his character?
Why don't you shut up? :evil:
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Re: A question of balance for Dattaswami

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Dimebag wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 12:56 am
Harbal wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:47 pm
Walker wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:01 pm
Then inner becomes the outer, when you and the guru are responding to stimuli with the same thoughts.

This is the crux of guru yoga, and the realization that this is perpetually happening, that the guru is not only inside your head but is thinking your thoughts, or perhaps you are thinking his thoughts, and this is the meaning of the inner becoming the outer.

For that to happen you must immerse in the gyatso of compassion.

It is the ultimate transmorgrification of duality, into the experience of non-duality.


Like it or not, judge it as you will, that is the dynamic and meaning of the outer becoming the inner, the practice of guru yoga, as no doubt is known by dattaswami within his tradition.
Why don't you get yourself a loin cloth and go live in India, Walker?
You react with an insult because walker is suggesting something other than an insult? Why not instead react to his ideas instead of resorting to childish insults attacking his character?
Walker was also playing a kind of holier than thou game in his dialogue with me. And justifying his point with irrelevant and pretty vague spiritual language. Less blunt is not less insulting.
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Re: A question of balance for Dattaswami

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Dimebag wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 12:56 am
Harbal wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:47 pm
Walker wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:01 pm
Then inner becomes the outer, when you and the guru are responding to stimuli with the same thoughts.

This is the crux of guru yoga, and the realization that this is perpetually happening, that the guru is not only inside your head but is thinking your thoughts, or perhaps you are thinking his thoughts, and this is the meaning of the inner becoming the outer.

For that to happen you must immerse in the gyatso of compassion.

It is the ultimate transmorgrification of duality, into the experience of non-duality.


Like it or not, judge it as you will, that is the dynamic and meaning of the outer becoming the inner, the practice of guru yoga, as no doubt is known by dattaswami within his tradition.
Why don't you get yourself a loin cloth and go live in India, Walker?
You react with an insult because walker is suggesting something other than an insult? Why not instead react to his ideas instead of resorting to childish insults attacking his character?
Harbal’s interest in the topic is borne of Ego wounded by being treated unfairly.

Due to the Physics of Compassion, Ego that tries to wound, only wounds itself.

Harbal has a good heart. He will get over it.
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Re: A question of balance for Dattaswami

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Harbal to Walker wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:47 pm Why don't you get yourself a loin cloth and go live in India, Walker?
:lol: He could be known as the Guru with Tourette's.
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Iwannaplato wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:12 am Walker was also playing a kind of holier than thou game in his dialogue with me. And justifying his point with irrelevant and pretty vague spiritual language. Less blunt is not less insulting.
People are more easily convinced by themselves than others are.
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Re: A question of balance for Dattaswami

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Walker wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:00 pm - Lacewing made an enquiry into energy.
- She invited any and all participation.
- And look who showed up with his engraved invitation.
- The actual River of Energy himself.
:lol: You think this is different or somehow more significant than the energy continually flowing throughout all?
Walker wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:00 pm - Maybe that's the problem. The man she summoned is not all dried up. :wink:
Do you speak from personal experience of being dried up?

Nothing is dried up in my life. 8)
Walker wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:00 pm Moral of the story?
- Be careful what you wish for 'cause when you're wishing, you don't know what you're gonna get.
- If you don’t like the answers, then you know to not ask the questions ... or petition for participation.
Why are you misrepresenting my response to dattaswami? I don't have any issue talking about energy. There is no single direction that answers come from... get over it... you can be a guru follower if you want to, but neither you nor they own it.
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