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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:01 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:35 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:55 am If there are 'consequences' then it's not 'free speech'.

Said like the ignoramus that you are.

Free speech is between you and the government. They can't send you to the Gulags if you call them incompetent, thieving assholes without merit.
Free speech is not between you and your car mechanic. He can sue you for libel if you call him an incompetent, thieving asshole without merit.

Said like the ignoramus that you are. Who said anything about car mechanics? Why would you ASSume that I think SLANDER is free speech? YOU are the one who said FREE SPEECH doesn't mean FREEDOM FROM CONSEQUENCES. Well actually it does, or should.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:23 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:01 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:35 am
Said like the ignoramus that you are.

Free speech is between you and the government. They can't send you to the Gulags if you call them incompetent, thieving assholes without merit.
Free speech is not between you and your car mechanic. He can sue you for libel if you call him an incompetent, thieving asshole without merit.

Said like the ignoramus that you are. Who said anything about car mechanics? Why would you ASSume that I think SLANDER is free speech? YOU are the one who said FREE SPEECH doesn't mean FREEDOM FROM CONSEQUENCES. Well actually it does, or should.

A world where freedom of speech means freedom from consequences is the tyrrany in which other people don't have any freedoms.

A world in which you are free to say anything; and others aren't free to do absolutely anything in response; and as consequence to your speech.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:08 pm Get back to me when you have acquired some comprehesion skills. You are only conradicting yourself, dickhead.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:17 pm 'The scep DICK still can't read.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:23 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:17 pm 'The scep DICK still can't read.

When you figure out the difference between reading and comprehending it will all begin to make sense.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:08 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:23 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:17 pm 'The scep DICK still can't read.

When you figure out the difference between reading and comprehending it will all begin to make sense.

You are a fuckwit. I don't even know what you are 'arguing' about and cleary nor do you.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:44 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:08 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:23 pm
When you figure out the difference between reading and comprehending it will all begin to make sense.

You are a fuckwit. I don't even know what you are 'arguing' about and cleary nor do you.

That's because I can only explain it to you, but I can't comprehend it for you...

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:52 am Listen you fucking moron. Slander, libel, defamation, fraud, harassment are all CRIMINAL OFFENCES and have NOTHING to do with FREE SPEECH.
So your wet little wokie assertion that 'free speech is fine, but you have to take the consequences when you use it' or whatever the fuck you said, is a load of soggy dog turds. What you are saying is that Jones was exercising his free speech and is now 'suffering the consequences'. GROW UP.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:25 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:52 am Listen you fucking moron. Slander, libel, defamation, fraud, harassment are all CRIMINAL OFFENCES and have NOTHING to do with FREE SPEECH.
So your wet little wokie assertion that 'free speech is fine, but you have to take the consequences when you use it' or whatever the fuck you said, is a load of soggy dog turds. What you are saying is that Jones was exercising his free speech and is now 'suffering the consequences'. GROW UP.

Ignoramus Maximus. You don't even comprehend the difference between civil and criminal liability.

Libel/defamation is not a criminal offence in most countries. It's a civil matter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tort

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:29 am

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:25 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:52 am Listen you fucking moron. Slander, libel, defamation, fraud, harassment are all CRIMINAL OFFENCES and have NOTHING to do with FREE SPEECH.
So your wet little wokie assertion that 'free speech is fine, but you have to take the consequences when you use it' or whatever the fuck you said, is a load of soggy dog turds. What you are saying is that Jones was exercising his free speech and is now 'suffering the consequences'. GROW UP.

Ignoramus Maximus. You don't even comprehend the difference between civil and criminal liability.

Libel/defamation is not a criminal offence in most countries. It's a civil matter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tort

So what? It still has nothing to do with free speech. By 'consequences' you seem to be referring to 'punishment by mob' i.e. 'brave' trolls on twatter.
I would expect as much from someone who gives HIMSELF the username DICK and doesn't know the difference between libel and slander.

promethean75 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:35 am Seriously tho, fifty million dollars to a couple parents who lost a kid a decade ago is a bit much. You'll hear the democrat pundits say 'no amount of money can heal the wounds those families suffered yada yada yada' when reporting on the Jones verdict... but that's a buncha bologna. Believe me, those parents are long past mourning their child's death,

promethean75 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:35 am and when that dad dude started crying and buried his face in his hands, what he wasn't thinking wuz 'oh thank God justice is served' but 'holy shit are we about to go on a sirius cruise, Mildred.'

Fifty million dollars. That jury has lost it's frickin mind. I'd let you kill my kid twice for fifty million dollars. Fuck outta here.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:32 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:29 am

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:25 am
Ignoramus Maximus. You don't even comprehend the difference between civil and criminal liability.

Libel/defamation is not a criminal offence in most countries. It's a civil matter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tort

So what? It still has nothing to do with free speech. By 'consequences' you seem to be referring to 'punishment by mob' i.e. 'brave' trolls on twatter.
I would expect as much from someone who gives HIMSELF the username DICK and doesn't know the difference between libel and slander.

By "consequences" I mean ANY and ALL effects resulting because of your free speech.

You say dumb shit using your free speech - your employer fires you because they have freedom of (dis)association. Consequences!
You say dumb shit using your free speech - your spouse leaves you. Consequences!

Why is comprehension so hard for you?

promethean75 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:35 am Seriously tho, fifty million dollars to a couple parents who lost a kid a decade ago is a bit much. You'll hear the democrat pundits say 'no amount of money can heal the wounds those families suffered yada yada yada' when reporting on the Jones verdict... but that's a buncha bologna. Believe me, those parents are long past mourning their child's death, and when that dad dude started crying and buried his face in his hands, what he wasn't thinking wuz 'oh thank God justice is served' but 'holy shit are we about to go on a sirius cruise, Mildred.'

Fifty million dollars. That jury has lost it's frickin mind. I'd let you kill my kid twice for fifty million dollars. Fuck outta here.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:16 pm

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:32 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:29 am

So what? It still has nothing to do with free speech. By 'consequences' you seem to be referring to 'punishment by mob' i.e. 'brave' trolls on twatter.
I would expect as much from someone who gives HIMSELF the username DICK and doesn't know the difference between libel and slander.

By "consequences" I mean ANY and ALL effects resulting because of your free speech.

You say dumb shit using your free speech - your employer fires you because they have freedom of (dis)association. Consequences!
You say dumb shit using your free speech - your spouse leaves you. Consequences!

Why is comprehension so hard for you?

Why are you such a fucking moron?