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commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:42 pm

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:19 am Oh, I just realized, I should have made it clear. I don't believe Age is a hypocrite. I just tell people he is and I tell him he is. I have no beliefs. I don't for example believe he was honest in his previous post. I lack a belief in his honesty. Oh, this is nice. Not having beliefs. I also lack a belief he is a good discussion partner. I love this. I get to say things about people, judge them, but not have any beliefs to justify. I thought this was disingenuous, but I now see how wrong I was. It is merely pleasant, transcendant.

Sarcasm is lost on some. For example read another response to what you said here.

You truly are perhaps the most intelligent and wisest man I have had the privilege to talk my bollocks to upon this forum.

So thank you.

commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:42 pm

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:19 am Oh, I just realized, I should have made it clear. I don't believe Age is a hypocrite. I just tell people he is and I tell him he is. I have no beliefs. I don't for example believe he was honest in his previous post. I lack a belief in his honesty. Oh, this is nice. Not having beliefs. I also lack a belief he is a good discussion partner. I love this. I get to say things about people, judge them, but not have any beliefs to justify. I thought this was disingenuous, but I now see how wrong I was. It is merely pleasant, transcendant.

Sarcasm is lost on some. For example read another response to what you said here.

While there is sarcasm, I consider it a parody.

commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:35 pm So the change Peter references is a manifestation of learning. And lifelong learning is what enables a person to analyze his beliefs, confirming them or turning them over for new ones. It takes an open mind, which some who post here falsely claim to have, to change beliefs. And among beliefs, which are in essence conclusions without factual evidence, the stickiest of all is the belief that something factitous is factual.

Though generaly in philosophy knowledge is considered a rigorously arrived at belief. We certainly believe the things we consider true. But, yes, in everyday language belief has been contrasted with knowledge, so some people can get unduly huffy if they are told they have beliefs, since they consider everything they believe to be knowledge. They might be ok with the verb form but the noun form, if somehow associated with them, is an insult. Dueling pistols can be metaphorical drawn.

And yes, claimed open minds are often not. And frankly, it generally takes experience not words on a screen to change one's mind or at least set one in motion towards changing one's mind. But still I think people are often naive in their estimates of the openness. I listened and was not convinced. I entertained the idea, but it lacked merit in my estimation. All presuming that one's biases were not involved in this purely rational process.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:35 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:42 pm

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:19 am Oh, I just realized, I should have made it clear. I don't believe Age is a hypocrite. I just tell people he is and I tell him he is. I have no beliefs. I don't for example believe he was honest in his previous post. I lack a belief in his honesty. Oh, this is nice. Not having beliefs. I also lack a belief he is a good discussion partner. I love this. I get to say things about people, judge them, but not have any beliefs to justify. I thought this was disingenuous, but I now see how wrong I was. It is merely pleasant, transcendant.

Sarcasm is lost on some. For example read another response to what you said here.

While there is sarcasm, I consider it a parody.

Rightly so.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:50 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:42 pm

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:19 am Oh, I just realized, I should have made it clear. I don't believe Age is a hypocrite. I just tell people he is and I tell him he is. I have no beliefs. I don't for example believe he was honest in his previous post. I lack a belief in his honesty. Oh, this is nice. Not having beliefs. I also lack a belief he is a good discussion partner. I love this. I get to say things about people, judge them, but not have any beliefs to justify. I thought this was disingenuous, but I now see how wrong I was. It is merely pleasant, transcendant.

Sarcasm is lost on some. For example read another response to what you said here.

You truly are perhaps the most intelligent and wisest man I have had the privilege to talk my bollocks to upon this forum.

So thank you.

It just takes an open aesophagus and good kidneys