What is a soul?

[Walker]

Does your view of any thing, change what that thing is?

No more or less so with a soul than with anything else, as far as I know.

Therefore like the mountain the soul does not change, but the view of the soul changes according to the individual, whose view may or may not be influenced by his culture.

At any rate. Age has given you plenty to work with. Solid statements to sink your teeth into, with minimal equivocation.

[Walker]

When the 'soul' word refers to an invisible part of the human being, then the soul is just the 'person' within a human body. The 'person' word refers to the thoughts and internal or emotional feelings, which are usually associated with the brain.

The 'human being' words refer to the whole or the physical visible part and the invisible part. The 'human' word refers to the physical, visible body and the 'being' word referring to the non visible part.

Now, the 'I' word refers to the One that is within everyone, which is what the 'God' word, in the 'Spirit' sense, refers to, but which is not the soul. The 'soul' word refers to the individual one or 'person', which the 'i' word refers to.

Now, the 'Spirit', of which there is only One, and which is not the soul, is eternal. The soul (or the 'you') is born, or is in creation, but has an everlasting affect, forevermore.

Although you, the soul, or the individual 'i', is, in a sense, aware, you and i are only aware, from and because of the five senses of that individual human body we are individually within. So, we, individually, only have a limited and relatively very small and narrowed field of view, and so also generally only have a limited and relatively very small and narrowed view, or opinion, of things.

The Spirit God, or the collective of ALL I, however, is aware of ALL things. Also, only because and from ALL of the sense that ALL individual physical bodies have.


Now, after a human body changes from being a breathing air, heart pumping body, the you, and i, within, existing as the invisible thoughts and feelings, or just the soul, stops being aware anymore, and so also stops gathering new thoughts or just stops becoming anew. But, the reason it is said the soul keeps existing and exists forever more is because what influence you have made and changed on the world and on other beings will have an everlasting effect, on one way or another.

- Nice presentation. Cogent, tight, a clear presentation with careful thinking, all predicated on the first statement.
- Obviously you expect from yourself what you ask from others.
- Plenty there to fuel Harbal’s enquiry.

“When the 'soul' word refers to an invisible part of the human being …”

- Based on this first statement and the intriguing word “invisible”, then to know that a soul exists at all, it must in some way be detected directly, or inferred as a cause affecting action, or effecting action.
- Old soul, young soul, good soul … what’s that all about?

[Harbal]

Therefore like the mountain the soul does not change, but the view of the soul changes according to the individual, whose view may or may not be influenced by his culture.

I'm sorry, but if you are trying to make a point, I don't get what it is.

[Walker]

Therefore like the mountain the soul does not change, but the view of the soul changes according to the individual, whose view may or may not be influenced by his culture.

I'm sorry, but if you are trying to make a point, I don't get what it is.

The point references your first sentence that assumes views of the soul determine the nature of the soul.

That you can't see it, is why I'm out.
That you possibly do see this, but give only blank, stupid feedback, is why I'm out.

The effort-to-result ratio isn't worth the time.

Age has given a rich array of portals into your topic of interest, so, move on.

That doesn't take much try.

[Harbal]

The point references your first sentence that assumes views of the soul determine the nature of the soul.

I was making the point that in some parts of the world, and in some religions, the concept of what a soul is might differ from the concept that is prevalent in a western, Christian society. So, to avoid too much confusion, I wanted the topic to be just about the latter. And I am, in fact, asking what people's views are on the nature of the soul.

That you possibly do see this, but give only blank, stupid feedback, is why I'm out.

The effort-to-result ratio isn't worth the time.

Age has given a rich array of portals into your topic of interest, so, move on.

That doesn't take much try.

It was your failure to make yourself clear that elicited my "stupid feedback". And if you subscribe to the same school of logic as Age, who you seem to be defending, then I couldn't be more delighted that you are "out".

[Dontaskme]

Therefore like the mountain the soul does not change, but the view of the soul changes according to the individual, whose view may or may not be influenced by his culture.

I'm sorry, but if you are trying to make a point, I don't get what it is.

They are saying the 'soul' is the invisible part of you, that is their point...and that's why you do not get it, because you can only get what you know from direct experience, and what you know is that which can be 'looked upon'...you cannot see the looker of the 'looked upon'.

Because the 'looked upon' is both the looker and the seen in the exact same instance of knowing, known by the only knowing there is and that is a conscious feeling sentient being like yours truly, your self.

In reality, there is no invisible you, so do not worry Harbal, you do not have ''to get'' the absurd idea there is an invisible part of you that could be seen as an actual object existing apart from what's looking...because knowing is seamless, there is no break in the perfect symmetry of immediate knowing.

The idea of a 'soul' is just more fictional story telling that's all. It doesn't actually exist, except as story in this inconceivable conception.

We need to be careful when contemplating the invisible you, it has a tendency to make insane what is always just pure clarity.

Hope this explanation does not trigger another ..I don't get it.

Thing is, you are it...you do not get it, you are it. You have always been it.

You are nothing more than a mechanical biological computer called a brain that runs on pure electricty, which exists in abundance Harbal...you are the ultimate A.I.


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[Harbal]

The idea of a 'soul' is just more fictional story telling that's all. It doesn't actually exist, except as story in this inconceivable conception.

But this is the point. Some people do believe the soul exists, and they believe it exists in a literal sense, so my aim is to explose what, exactly, the soul could be if it did exist.

[Dontaskme]

then I couldn't be more delighted that are "out".

Don't be fooled by the 'out' comment.

It was made out of pure frustration of the need to be IN another persons mind, knowing full well that's impossible, that's why he made his own way out.

Log on to the inner-net or not ...for all the answers to any question.

[Dontaskme]

The idea of a 'soul' is just more fictional story telling that's all. It doesn't actually exist, except as story in this inconceivable conception.

But this is the point. Some people do believe the soul exists, and they believe it exists in a literal sense, so my aim is to explose what, exactly, the soul could be if it did exist.

Good luck on your quest to expose what, exactly, the soul could be if it did exist ...Harbal.

If we look for the answer inside someone elses mind, you might not like what you find, and it might cause you to hate it. But know that what you find inside another's mind, is just an idea in your own head, and not inside someone elses mind.

Ultimately, only you get to decide what's real and what's not real. Only you get it, because you are it.

[Harbal]

Don't be fooled by the 'out' comment.

I don't actually care whether he's in or out, to be honest.

[Harbal]

Good luck on your quest to expose what, exactly, the soul could be if it did exist ...Harbal.

If we look for the answer inside someone elses mind, you might not like what you find, and it might cause you to hate it. But know that what you find inside another's mind, is just an idea in your own head, and not inside someone elses mind.

Ultimately, only you get to decide what's real and what's not real. Only you get it, because you are it.

Let's not make too big a deal out of it. I mean, it's only a way of passing the time.

[Dontaskme]

Don't be fooled by the 'out' comment.

I don't actually care whether he's in or out, to be honest.

I know what you mean.

In / Out ...where is that?

[Dontaskme]

Let's not make too big a deal out of it. I mean, it's only a way of passing the time.

I know Harbal, and isn't this a fun way to pass the time. To make out the in and the out in.

I'm just playing with ya!

[Walker]

then I couldn't be more delighted that are "out".

Don't be fooled by the 'out' comment.

It was made out of pure frustration of the need to be IN another persons mind, knowing full well that's impossible, that's why he made his own way out.

Log on to the inner-net or not ...for all the answers to any question.

Not at all.

I’ve worked with plenty of union folks who made stupid into an artform, but I never did it pro bono.

No need.

[Harbal]

I'm just playing with ya!

So you are toying with me, are you?