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Re: What is the point of Higher Education?
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:05 am
by Sculptor
promethean75 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:24 pm
Just look away, sculp. Look away.
The American establishment have very cleverly undermined the power of the workers by engineering a situation where socialism is a four letter word, thereby clowns like Simple are participating in their own oppression.
WHilst they blame immigrants, blacks, mexicans, and Democrats the elites are laughing all the way to the bank, ending eveything that has been gained since 1900 working rights, sick pay, pensions, - its all going, going gone.
Re: What is the point of Higher Education?
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:31 am
by henry quirk
when socialism has had the reigns of power
wait, when was that?
Re: What is the point of Higher Education?
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:36 am
by simplicity
Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:10 pm
I/m not cherry picking.
What socialism is, is written down. There are clear ideas and manifestos.
THIS is where all utopians miss the boat!! What socialism is IS NOT what is written down, instead it is what it is
en praxis, just like every other system.
Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:10 pmYour ignorance is astoninshing.
THe people in control are the IVy league in the US, mostly capitalist, financiers, lawyers, shareholders. Kunts like Trump.
In the UK it is the Buller Boys. People who are rich , from rich families that have been rich for generations; aristocrats and those who aspire to high office and noble honours. None of that is socialism.
The people in control are not fucking socialists you dickhead.
Do you not understand that there is pretty much one party now, that the "capitalists" and socialists are more or less on the same side, that governments and corporations have each others backs? How could you explain Silicon Valley acting as censor for the American left?
You need to get beyond your capitalism controls everything narrative and learn about other parts of the system that are more fundamental, i.e., have been there before capitalism arrived and will be there log after its demise.
Re: What is the point of Higher Education?
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:05 am
by promethean75
This is me whenever I find a conservative at a philosophy forum talking about Marx and/or socialism....
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Re: What is the point of Higher Education?
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:21 pm
by Sculptor
henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:31 am
when socialism has had the reigns of power
wait, when was
that?
UK 1945, 1964, 1974
NHS
Ecucation Act
Grants for higher education.
Re: What is the point of Higher Education?
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:43 pm
by henry quirk
Sculptor wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:21 pm
henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:31 am
when socialism has had the reigns of power
wait, when was
that?
UK 1945, 1964, 1974
NHS
Ecucation Act
Grants for higher education.
was
the empire socialist?
Re: What is the point of Higher Education?
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:20 pm
by Sculptor
henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:43 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:21 pm
henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:31 am
when socialism has had the reigns of power
wait, when was
that?
UK 1945, 1964, 1974
NHS
Ecucation Act
Grants for higher education.
was
the empire socialist?
Duh
Re: What is the point of Higher Education?
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:24 pm
by henry quirk
Sculptor wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:20 pm
henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:43 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:21 pm
UK 1945, 1964, 1974
NHS
Ecucation Act
Grants for higher education.
was
the empire socialist?
Duh
so, why is it not socialist
now? (or, is it?)
Re: What is the point of Higher Education?
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:34 pm
by promethean75
Because...
The UK private sector business population is made up of 3.2 million sole proprietorships (56% of the total), 2 million actively trading companies (37%) and 384,000 ordinary partnerships (7%) in 2021. 2.7 million private sector businesses as registered for VAT or PAYE, 48% of the estimated total population.
As you can see, there are more crapitalists in the UK then there are fleas on a dog.
Re: What is the point of Higher Education?
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:41 pm
by Sculptor
henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:24 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:20 pm
henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:43 pm
was
the empire socialist?
Duh
so, why is it not socialist
now? (or, is it?)
wot empire
Re: What is the point of Higher Education?
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:53 pm
by henry quirk
Sculptor wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:41 pm
henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:24 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:20 pm
Duh
so, why is it not socialist
now? (or, is it?)
wot empire
the dead one you live in
Re: What is the point of Higher Education?
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:26 am
by Sculptor
henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:53 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:41 pm
henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:24 pm
so, why is it not socialist
now? (or, is it?)
wot empire
the dead one you live in
FFS. You asnwered your own question. WHy is it not socialist now, is because it is "dead"
Socialism killed it.
Re: What is the point of Higher Education?
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:39 pm
by henry quirk
Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:26 am
henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:53 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:41 pm
wot empire
the dead one you live in
FFS. You asnwered your own question. WHy is it not socialist now, is because it is "dead"
Socialism killed it.
ah, so the dead empire is
now a thrivin' socialist nation, yeah?
Re: What is the point of Higher Education?
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:48 pm
by Sculptor
henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:39 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:26 am
henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:53 pm
the dead one you live in
FFS. You asnwered your own question. WHy is it not socialist now, is because it is "dead"
Socialism killed it.
ah, so the dead empire is
now a thrivin' socialist nation, yeah?
Dead things never thrive. WHy not do yourself a favour and use a dictionary.
DEAD
adjective
1.
no longer alive.
eg "a dead body"
You are very versed at making an arse of yourself.
Re: What is the point of Higher Education?
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:00 pm
by henry quirk
Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:48 pm
henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:39 pm
Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:26 am
FFS. You asnwered your own question. WHy is it not socialist now, is because it is "dead"
Socialism killed it.
ah, so the dead empire is
now a thrivin' socialist nation, yeah?
Dead things never thrive. WHy not do yourself a favour and use a dictionary.
DEAD
adjective
1.
no longer alive.
eg "a dead body"
You are very versed at making an arse of yourself.
>ah, so the dead empire is
now a thrivin' socialist nation, yeah?
meaning: what was once a thrivin' empire, died...from the carcass rose a mighty, thrivin', socialism that still exists today
see, the
now in the sentence denotes the transformation from dead empire to livin' socialism, that did, and still does (right?), all manner of good things for people