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Re: If Reality is an Illusion
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:45 am
by Dontaskme
DPMartin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 5:07 pm
sorry pal, life knows it is. for as long as it can experience being. an i'm not sure about what Einstein may or may not have said on the knowledge of existence but he sure did express his knowledge of existence and reality didn't he?
its simple, an inanimate object may experience the existence of another inanimate object such as a planet experiencing the proximity of the sun. but life knows because of experience for as long as it can retain the memory.
Sorry enemy, but knowing is reflexive. Experience is an appearance artificially born from dead memory, impulses of a past that is always now, that appears to give the illusion of a continuous linear passing of time and change.
In reality, everything is happening all at once one without a sceond. In other words, nothing is knowing, nothing is moving, and nothing is changing.
Nothing can know itself, the very appearance that it does, is the illusion.
Re: If Reality is an Illusion
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:50 am
by Dontaskme
Dubious wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:25 am
...then the illusion is real!
One we're forced to live with as long as the illusion remains alive.
Yes, that's right, may the force be with you.
Re: If Reality is an Illusion
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:00 am
by Dontaskme
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:28 pm
3. Dualism exists. This dualism is one blanket observation of all of being thus necessitating one being occuring. Dualism thus both exists and does not exist further resulting in a dualism....yet this again is observing the unity of everything under one principle thus one occurs. This goes back and forth in a contradiction therefore leading dualism and monism negating themselves. This negation is non-dual and non-monism. This negation further implies a triad as this is neither a dualism nor a monism. A triad necessitates a truth, an absence of truth, and a grade of truth with "truth" being synonymous to "reality".
But this is just more conceptual kowledge which is a fiction.
Non-Duality is Dualism, because there is no such thing as nonduality, it's not a thing. Within the artificial dream of separation, no thing is being a thing, as an unreal real, or a real unreal.
There's no need for the middle man approach here, this cannot be approached using words. But can only be realised via words.
Metaphorically speaking...The edge of the coin that appears, apparently to separate the two opposite sides of the coin from knowing each side exists, is nothing but the whole coin in and of itself, there is no separation there.
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Re: If Reality is an Illusion
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:52 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:00 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:28 pm
3. Dualism exists. This dualism is one blanket observation of all of being thus necessitating one being occuring. Dualism thus both exists and does not exist further resulting in a dualism....yet this again is observing the unity of everything under one principle thus one occurs. This goes back and forth in a contradiction therefore leading dualism and monism negating themselves. This negation is non-dual and non-monism. This negation further implies a triad as this is neither a dualism nor a monism. A triad necessitates a truth, an absence of truth, and a grade of truth with "truth" being synonymous to "reality".
But this is just more conceptual kowledge which is a fiction.
Non-Duality is Dualism, because there is no such thing as nonduality, it's not a thing. Within the artificial dream of separation, no thing is being a thing, as an unreal real, or a real unreal.
There's no need for the middle man approach here, this cannot be approached using words. But can only be realised via words.
Metaphorically speaking...The edge of the coin that appears, apparently to separate the two opposite sides of the coin from knowing each side exists, is nothing but the whole coin in and of itself, there is no separation there.
.
If there is no such thing as non-duality then one cannot speak of non-duality yet one is speaking of it therefore it exists.
Re: If Reality is an Illusion
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:56 am
by Dontaskme
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:52 pm
If there is no such thing as non-duality then one cannot speak of non-duality yet one is speaking of it therefore it exists.
No thing is speaking, No thing exists, No thing is happening.
Life is a dream dreamt by no one.
That which is never ceases to be. That which is not never comes into existence.
Nothing (no thing) exists - if by a 'thing' we mean something existing in it's own right in time and space. However, the substance of all apparent things, does not exist, but rather is eternally, that is, not 'forever' in time, but always now.
Re: If Reality is an Illusion
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:03 pm
by SpheresOfBalance
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:08 am
If reality is an illusion and there is only nothing then no truth exists and this is a truth thus resulting in a contradiction which exists.
Illusion requires reality, by definition!
Re: If Reality is an Illusion
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:54 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 5:56 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:52 pm
If there is no such thing as non-duality then one cannot speak of non-duality yet one is speaking of it therefore it exists.
No thing is speaking, No thing exists, No thing is happening.
Life is a dream dreamt by no one.
That which is never ceases to be. That which is not never comes into existence.
Nothing (no thing) exists - if by a 'thing' we mean something existing in it's own right in time and space. However, the substance of all apparent things, does not exist, but rather is eternally, that is, not 'forever' in time, but always now.
1. Yet the act of speaking exists given the statement "No thing is speaking"....you contradict yourself.
2. The continuity of forms through universals necessitates a thing as existing above time and space. These universals exist through eachother as approximations of the one formless nature of being, yet these forms (as universals) are continuous through their formless source. This continuity is self sufficiency reflected through the common source which permeates all of being.
Re: If Reality is an Illusion
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:08 pm
by Eodnhoj7
SpheresOfBalance wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:03 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:08 am
If reality is an illusion and there is only nothing then no truth exists and this is a truth thus resulting in a contradiction which exists.
Illusion requires reality, by definition!
Yes....I was pointing to the paradox of stating "all is illusion".