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That, which does the knowing, cannot itself be known, and can not know its self.
..well thank fuck you have all the answers to nothing.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:34 amThat, which does the knowing, cannot itself be known, and can not know its self.
What does this expression say?.....Nothing.
What does it mean?....Nothing.
And yet........there is apparent meaning.
Free implies there is a ''free from'' - else, the word free has no meaning.
Free from, has to include it's opposite, were you ever free? only in the context of knowing you were bound.
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Mind is free. Mind cannot be created.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:55 pm God gives us free will to choose
Once baptised the experience of his salvation and relationship with God is called theosis. Mankind has free will to accept or reject the grace of God. Rejection of the gifts of God is called blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (gifts of grace, faith, life).
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In reality...Humans are not free nor do they have free will.
freewill is a dilution in the case of choosing God. those that reject God's revelation of presence (Holy Spirit) is an blasphemy and unforgivable according to the NT, the same NT also mentions vessels made unto honor and dishonor. the reason the devil can not be redeemed is he has seen God and rejects.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:55 pm God gives us free will to choose
Once baptised the experience of his salvation and relationship with God is called theosis. Mankind has free will to accept or reject the grace of God. Rejection of the gifts of God is called blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (gifts of grace, faith, life).
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In reality...Humans are not free nor do they have free will.
Conceptual thought such as ''free'' or ''bound'' is a creation of the mind which is uncreatedbahman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:21 pmMind is free. Mind cannot be created.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:55 pm God gives us free will to choose
Once baptised the experience of his salvation and relationship with God is called theosis. Mankind has free will to accept or reject the grace of God. Rejection of the gifts of God is called blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (gifts of grace, faith, life).
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In reality...Humans are not free nor do they have free will.
and is known as ( The Not-Knowing Knowing) or ( The Uncreated Creation)Yes.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:45 pmConceptual thought such as ''free'' or ''bound'' is a creation of the mind which is uncreatedbahman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:21 pmMind is free. Mind cannot be created.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:55 pm God gives us free will to choose
Once baptised the experience of his salvation and relationship with God is called theosis. Mankind has free will to accept or reject the grace of God. Rejection of the gifts of God is called blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (gifts of grace, faith, life).
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In reality...Humans are not free nor do they have free will.
So, you are just an illusion that is happening?
What are you talking about? What is the mirror?
Yes, the illusion of you is real, but only as a mirage is real, a mirage is both there and not there.
The mirror a symbolic metaphor for the mind. A mirror must be empty for it to be able to reflect an image. The mirrors image is inseparable from the mirror itself, which means the mind is a kind of empty fullness. The mind is emptiness appearing full.
Incoherent.
An empty thing cannot experience, decide, and cause.
ok bahman.bahman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:07 pmIncoherent.
An empty thing cannot experience, decide, and cause.
______Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:55 pm God gives us free will to choose
Once baptised the experience of his salvation and relationship with God is called theosis. Mankind has free will to accept or reject the grace of God. Rejection of the gifts of God is called blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (gifts of grace, faith, life).
exactly
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:32 am [
Unconditional implies unlimited actions may be taken. Reality doesn't work like that, there are conditions to adhere to, like for example, a human can not choose to be born, nor can they choose the moment of their natural death.
Truth is, there is no chooser, nor doer, except in this illusory conception.
God is a mental contruction, a myth.
loll, i'm with you in this on.
nope. your reference is not to NT but Saul's letter, and ihat offense si to the Holy Ghost (rejecting) not pr rejecting God YHWH or his son Jesus.DPMartin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:01 pmfreewill is a dilution in the case of choosing God. those that reject God's revelation of presence (Holy Spirit) is an blasphemy and unforgivable according to the NT,Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:55 pm God gives us free will to choose
Once baptised the experience of his salvation and relationship with God is called theosis. Mankind has free will to accept or reject the grace of God. Rejection of the gifts of God is called blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (gifts of grace, faith, life).
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In reality...Humans are not free nor do they have free will.
Belial know God in the OT while erving him, only latter became YHWH's enemy.DPMartin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:01 pm
the same NT also mentions vessels made unto honor and dishonor. the reason the devil can not be redeemed is he has seen God and rejects.
but in biblical context God chooses, no one receives revelation of God's presence unless He chooses to do so. hence the experience of revelation is to know. so on and so forth.
but if you want to call the choice of doing your own thing and not a nations or a groups thing whereas nether have anything to do with God go ahead.
agreed, word salad/sophistry in thinkbahman wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:07 pmIncoherent.
An empty thing cannot experience, decide, and cause.
according to Jesus God is a Spirit, therefore the Holy Spirit is the presence of God as described elsewhere, as in indwell and one is a temple hence a dwelling place of the presence of God in the case of the born again. so the rejection of God's presence is the rejection of the Holy Spirit. you know 2+2 =4gaffo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:50 amnope. your reference is not to NT but Saul's letter, and ihat offense si to the Holy Ghost (rejecting) not pr rejecting God YHWH or his son Jesus.DPMartin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:01 pmfreewill is a dilution in the case of choosing God. those that reject God's revelation of presence (Holy Spirit) is an blasphemy and unforgivable according to the NT,Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:55 pm God gives us free will to choose
Once baptised the experience of his salvation and relationship with God is called theosis. Mankind has free will to accept or reject the grace of God. Rejection of the gifts of God is called blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (gifts of grace, faith, life).
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In reality...Humans are not free nor do they have free will.
sso Saul (not the NT) - Saul, thought the rejection of YHWH and/or Christ was forgivable, but not that of rejecting the HG.
for whatever reason, no clue on that - welcome coucil on this matter.
Balaam served Balak the son of Zippor and the princes of Moab, not the Lord God of Israel. Balaam was a diviner of which the Lord used for the sake and faith of the children of Israel.Belial know God in the OT while erving him, only latter became YHWH's enemy.DPMartin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:01 pm
the same NT also mentions vessels made unto honor and dishonor. the reason the devil can not be redeemed is he has seen God and rejects.
but in biblical context God chooses, no one receives revelation of God's presence unless He chooses to do so. hence the experience of revelation is to know. so on and so forth.
but if you want to call the choice of doing your own thing and not a nations or a groups thing whereas nether have anything to do with God go ahead.