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bahman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:34 pm

Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:15 am

bahman wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:19 pm
Well, we have knowledge. God is not like us, doesn't have any parts (that is Catholic teaching), so He cannot have knowledge. The only alternative which is left is that God is knowledge. Which I show that it is not correct.

For one, you left out the steps that lead to the conclusion "Either God has knowledge or God is knowledge."

The act of creation requires knowledge.

bahman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:43 pm

DPMartin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:24 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:24 pm
I am talking about the Catholic God. How not simplicity follows from unsearchable. And you cannot say knowledge of God since otherwise God would have parts.

well for one, the catholic God has three parts Father Son and Holy Ghost, according to Catholics, and since it seems you don't know, the nature of God has many things such as Mercy righteousness judgement wisdom knowledge and understanding, to name a few.

also the catholic God is the God of Jesus Christ which is the same God of Israel which is the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.

and yes I can say knowledge of God, watch this, Knowledge of God or how about Word of God or maybe Truth of God or Presence of God and Spirit of God, there's more if you like.

I am arguing that God cannot be simple and has parts at the same time.

DPMartin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:15 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:43 pm

DPMartin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:24 pm

well for one, the catholic God has three parts Father Son and Holy Ghost, according to Catholics, and since it seems you don't know, the nature of God has many things such as Mercy righteousness judgement wisdom knowledge and understanding, to name a few.

also the catholic God is the God of Jesus Christ which is the same God of Israel which is the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.

and yes I can say knowledge of God, watch this, Knowledge of God or how about Word of God or maybe Truth of God or Presence of God and Spirit of God, there's more if you like.

I am arguing that God cannot be simple and has parts at the same time.

if you may notice more then one poster here sees you argument as otherwise.

bahman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:24 pm

DPMartin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:15 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:43 pm
I am arguing that God cannot be simple and has parts at the same time.

if you may notice more then one poster here sees you argument as otherwise.

And also saying that the knowledge is structured. Therefore God cannot be knowledge.

DPMartin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:41 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:24 pm

DPMartin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:15 pm

if you may notice more then one poster here sees you argument as otherwise.

And also saying that the knowledge is structured. Therefore God cannot be knowledge.

not to go mr biblical on you but consiter:

Gen 1:2  And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 
Gen 1:3  And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 

note without God's presence and Word, there is void and darkness that would be like unto chaos wouldn't it? then God's presence and He speaks hence the beginning of order and structure in the mist of chaos.

DPMartin wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:41 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:24 pm

DPMartin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:15 pm

if you may notice more then one poster here sees you argument as otherwise.

And also saying that the knowledge is structured. Therefore God cannot be knowledge.

not to go mr biblical on you but consiter:

Gen 1:2  And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 
Gen 1:3  And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 

note without God's presence and Word, there is void and darkness that would be like unto chaos wouldn't it? then God's presence and He speaks hence the beginning of order and structure in the mist of chaos.