Re: privilege = integration
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:04 pm
[quote=DPMartin post_id=489668 time=1610567486 user_id=13848]
[quote=Advocate post_id=489610 time=1610557087 user_id=15238]
They both mean the same thing - regardless of where you are in it, society is working for you. It means you can progress forward with your desires and goals. It means you understand how things work and they don't interfere with your priorities too much. There are no examples of dis-integrated people who are also privileged or privileged people who are not also integrated. Even the outliers such as Jacque Fresco, John McAfee, Joe Quirk, or Aaron Schwartz, who exist(ed) on that margin, are good exemplars of the limits of each. If you lose your integration, you lose your privilege, and vice versa.
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na, you're looking at a small segment of the population, if you are privileged then you have the properties of the privileged such as money, power, and or fame, otherwise you are not privileged. you need not be integrated into anything, but you need the properties to be treated as privileged and the privileged don't need desires and goals many are born into money and power.
this posting isn't a realistic view of privilege and integration
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Being wealthy is an extreme end of the scale of privilege/integration... You can see how deeply integrated they are by the way everyone scurries around them to ensure they get their way. The system works for them as a central role of it's existence. What more would you want before applying the word integrated? Choose any example you like, they come together because they're the same thing. aka A difference that makes no difference is no difference.
[quote=Advocate post_id=489610 time=1610557087 user_id=15238]
They both mean the same thing - regardless of where you are in it, society is working for you. It means you can progress forward with your desires and goals. It means you understand how things work and they don't interfere with your priorities too much. There are no examples of dis-integrated people who are also privileged or privileged people who are not also integrated. Even the outliers such as Jacque Fresco, John McAfee, Joe Quirk, or Aaron Schwartz, who exist(ed) on that margin, are good exemplars of the limits of each. If you lose your integration, you lose your privilege, and vice versa.
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na, you're looking at a small segment of the population, if you are privileged then you have the properties of the privileged such as money, power, and or fame, otherwise you are not privileged. you need not be integrated into anything, but you need the properties to be treated as privileged and the privileged don't need desires and goals many are born into money and power.
this posting isn't a realistic view of privilege and integration
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Being wealthy is an extreme end of the scale of privilege/integration... You can see how deeply integrated they are by the way everyone scurries around them to ensure they get their way. The system works for them as a central role of it's existence. What more would you want before applying the word integrated? Choose any example you like, they come together because they're the same thing. aka A difference that makes no difference is no difference.
