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Re: justice for just us
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:03 pm
by henry quirk
well morals believe it or not is relative, relative to those in a agreement, which is the agreed morals, or rules, or behavior, or this for that.
as I say, I'm a moral realist (specifically, a natural rights libertarian), so -- no -- I don't believe that.
Re: justice for just us
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:19 pm
by Advocate
[quote="henry quirk" post_id=489613 time=1610557427 user_id=472]
[b]well morals believe it or not is relative, relative to those in a agreement, which is the agreed morals, or rules, or behavior, or this for that.[/b]
as I say, I'm a moral realist (specifically, a natural rights libertarian), so -- no -- I don't believe that.
[/quote]
Every right is opposed by a responsibility. If you have the right to x, everyone else has the responsibility to let you do x without interference.
Natural rights end as soon as you start forming a civilisation, which is a contract specifying what you'll compromise on in order to get the specified benefits.
Re: justice for just us
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:49 am
by henry quirk
Advocate wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:19 pm
henry quirk wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:03 pm
well morals believe it or not is relative, relative to those in a agreement, which is the agreed morals, or rules, or behavior, or this for that.
as I say, I'm a moral realist (specifically, a natural rights libertarian), so -- no -- I don't believe that.
Every right is opposed by a responsibility. If you have the right to x, everyone else has the responsibility to let you do x without interference.
Natural rights end as soon as you start forming a civilisation, which is a contract specifying what you'll compromise on in order to get the specified benefits.
you and me, we got differin' ideas about what constitutes
civilization, yes sir, we do