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Re: Debate: Did Muhammad Exist [Real or Myth]?

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:40 am
by Veritas Aequitas
Skip wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:54 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:22 am I believe it is sufficient in here to state all evil ideologies must be addressed and resolved in the future.
It is too complex to address the details here.
And yet you managed so very much detail regarding your stance on Islam! Picky-choosy, some?
It is critical to stick to topic which I insist in this case.

It is also critical and intellectually responsible to ensure one is equipped with an much knowledge as possible on a subject or ideology one is critiquing or condemning. Note I spent 3 years full time [6-8 hours a day] researching the Quran, learned basic Arabic and other necessary actions to increase my competence on Islam & the Quran.

Re: Debate: Did Muhammad Exist [Real or Myth]?

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:04 pm
by Skip
Don't mind me. Proceed with your crusade-in-teacup.

Re: Debate: Did Muhammad Exist [Real or Myth]?

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:47 am
by Veritas Aequitas
Skip wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:04 pm Don't mind me. Proceed with your crusade-in-teacup.
It is a very likely possibility you could be beheaded while drinking tea anywhere by an evil prone Muslim performing his religious duty to please his God.
If Biden wins, and as Obama had done in placating with the Muslims' whims, the evil prone will be more encouraged and have a free rein to do that in the USA.

Re: Debate: Did Muhammad Exist [Real or Myth]?

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:39 am
by Skip
You are one sick little puppy, ain't you?

Re: Debate: Did Muhammad Exist [Real or Myth]?

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:51 am
by Veritas Aequitas
Skip wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:39 am You are one sick little puppy, ain't you?
Prove to me what I speculated is irrational and an impossibility?

I assert it is impossible for a Christian to kill or behead non-Christians as commanded by the doctrine of the Gospels* since its overriding maxim is 'love all -even enemies'.
Christianity is constituted by the Gospels only; the OT, Acts and others are merely supplementary appendixes to Christianity.

Re: Debate: Did Muhammad Exist [Real or Myth]?

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:02 pm
by Skip
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:51 am Prove to me what I speculated is irrational and an impossibility?
Where did I say that any human depravity, cruelty or atrocity is impossible?
I assert it is impossible for a Christian to kill or behead non-Christians
Then, you're very naive. Beheading may not be the current mainstream method of choice, but shooting, drowning, burning alive, exploding, starving and various ingenious tortures have never been outside the Christian pale. I hear some Trumpists want journalists hanged and public health officials - yes - beheaded.
as commanded by the doctrine of the Gospels* since its overriding maxim is 'love all -even enemies'.
And you think that people who identify with a religion actually know and abide by its gospels? :roll:

Re: Debate: Did Muhammad Exist [Real or Myth]?

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:58 am
by Veritas Aequitas
Skip wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:02 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:51 am Prove to me what I speculated is irrational and an impossibility?
Where did I say that any human depravity, cruelty or atrocity is impossible?
I assert it is impossible for a Christian to kill or behead non-Christians
Then, you're very naive. Beheading may not be the current mainstream method of choice, but shooting, drowning, burning alive, exploding, starving and various ingenious tortures have never been outside the Christian pale. I hear some Trumpists want journalists hanged and public health officials - yes - beheaded.
as commanded by the doctrine of the Gospels* since its overriding maxim is 'love all -even enemies'.
And you think that people who identify with a religion actually know and abide by its gospels? :roll:
If you joined any group [society-A] by signing to accept its constitution which stipulate you must love all humans and even enemies, then you as an official member must comply with such terms.
If you were to decide to kill humans, then you cannot be killing as an official member of that Society-A.
In this case, you are killing humans driven by your own personal evil nature.
You and others cannot blame Society-A for the killings.

If X signed a contract to be a Policeman where the terms of the contract is to prevent killings and crimes, surely if X is a serial killer who killed humans off duty, surely we cannot blame the police department or the government concern for those killings by X.

It is the same with Christianity which constitution has the pacifist maxim 'love all -even enemies'.
A Christian is one who has entered into a contract [covenant] with the Christian God to comply with the terms within the constitution.
Therefore a human who happened to be a Christian and killed humans could not have been motivated by Christianity per se because its constitution do not permit killing humans.

That people do not abide by the Christian Gospels and the terms of the contract as a Christian has nothing to do with Christianity.
Point is, anyone, the good, the bad and the evil can join any religion. A malignant psychopath can easily be Christian and if the psychopath killed humans, it is not driven by Christianity but by his own psychopathy.

But when a malignant psychopath become a Muslim, his divine contractual terms include commands to kill non-Muslims upon the slightest threats. In this case, his tendency to kill will be facilitated [Milgram] by the doctrines of Islam itself, especially when the psychopath killed while shouting Allahu Akbar.

Btw, are you aware of the very famous Milgram Experiments, where the authority element catalyze greater evil, and this is happening with God the all powerful motivating Muslims to kill in his name as a religious duty.
This is the point where via Islam's intrinsic doctrines enable the possibility where a non-Muslim can be beheaded by a Muslim anytime, anywhere on Earth.

Note there are > than 1.5 billion Muslims all over Earth, if only 10% can be influenced to kill non-Muslims to be assured of salvation, that is a pool of 150 million of them. :shock: Don't you recognize the reality and the possibility in this case?