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Re: Trump's loss is by more than 4 million people...
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:53 am
by henry quirk
i ask you as one man to another, what if the PA state house is bribbed to make "faithless electorates"
I wouldn't like that at all, any more than I would like it if dems are stealin' ORANGE MAN's fairly won second term
you?
as for electors goin' faithless: why assume they do it for gain? it's not possible such folks might simply doubt the legitimacy of the current count?
don't you?
Re: Trump's loss is by more than 4 million people...
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:53 am
by gaffo
henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:30 pm
as I say: I prefer if ORANGE MAN gets his *second term and keeps wreckin' commie dreams, but I can live with gri
ok - i did not see prior to my prior post, so you are like me and affirm the Spirit of the law (you would not like Rump buying out the PA state legislatures, thought fullt legal under our Constiution -even if it would make your Rump pres in spite of Popular Will.
so thanks, i can still call you my brother patriot - agree to dissagree on most things, but not on the core stuff.
Re: Trump's loss is by more than 4 million people...
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:12 am
by gaffo
henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:53 am
i ask you as one man to another, what if the PA state house is bribbed to make "faithless electorates"
I wouldn't like that at all,
nor i.
henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:53 am
any more than I would like it if dems are stealin' ORANGE MAN's fairly won second term
are they? FYI I've been a registered independent since i could vote - i voted for Monale in 84, then Ron Paul (all 2-percent of us, still respect him (his son is not a Liberatian, just a Reichwinger), then stayed out for 15 yrs (in hindsight sad i did not vote for Bush Sr - a good prez, won gulf war in the cheap and fast...........but sat his 92 out (never like clinton - phoney - i like songas but he lost out in the primaries so did not vote)
did not re-vote until Obama in 08, beleived in the "hope and change" - fool me, he caved, special interests/corp machine rules (thanks Citizens united)
henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:53 am
me? I'm Fair and affirm the Rule of Law, even though i affirm you as a conservative Libertarian, and you just think i am crazy, no lib or dem or whatever, just a crazy fuck.
if you affirm your view of me as a crazy fuck, why reply to me in the first place?
henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:53 am
as for electors goin' faithless: why assume they do it for gain? it's not possible such folks might simply doubt the legitimacy of the current count?
don't you?
supension of dissbelief, please.
Re: Trump's loss is by more than 4 million people...
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:26 am
by henry quirk
are they?
*shrug*
we'll find out eventually
Re: Trump's loss is by more than 4 million people...
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:49 am
by Impenitent
gaffo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:25 am
Impenitent wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:00 pm
see you in the courts
and the senate will not allow anything to pass
utopia
-Imp
Senate is irrelivant per the rule of law.
you not american, if you are, you would know that the senate is irrelivant, and only the house would be - only if a 268/268 (in that case the Federal House rules via the top 3 states - per their elector college values (so that means CA, NY, and??????? FL? rules - so Biden wins by refault), and since its not that only relivence is the State House of PA (or other State houses) per your arguement.
and since the pop vote is via Bidon, the only way Chump can win is by buying out PA (and/or other State EC votes - since the EC is not mandated to refect the popular will.................so ya Chump can in theory brib those state reps - who will conveine in december - to side against the pop vote,and so win the election.
is this what you wish for?
fully legal under my Constitution, though i would not welcome. being against the popular will.
So clarifiy, do you wish for the popular will to be ignored if the State Legislatures affirm rump as president in spite of said will?
-------it would be fully legal, and though legal, i would not like, you would? why so?
clarify why support ignoring popular vote/wish?........
tell me how federal laws are passed? what else does the senate have to approve?
hello gridlock
I support the electoral college as prescribed in constitution- America has never been a democracy
queen hillary won the popular vote too
sober up
-Imp
Re: Trump's loss is by more than 4 million people...
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:30 am
by commonsense
Wah, wah, wah...
You know who you are.
Re: Trump's loss is by more than 4 million people...
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:32 am
by gaffo
henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:26 am
are they?
*shrug*
we'll find out eventually
no, there is no stealing of elections, just rump's refusal to accept defeat and his sheep that follow his lead - affirming all delusions without evidence, as long as Dear Leader tells them to "beleive" they do as good brainstems.
there are just elections, as there have been for the last 200 yrs. (i noted you did not answer my question to you as one gentleman to another - per Rule of Law/will of the People/PA house being bought out to make Rump King in spite of popuiar will (I note your dodge. - welcome your views on such, but since you dodged it, not expecting much from you sadly - i think it important, you dont, so sad you dodged it).
Re: Trump's loss is by more than 4 million people...
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:45 am
by gaffo
Impenitent wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:49 am
gaffo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:25 am
Impenitent wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:00 pm
see you in the courts
and the senate will not allow anything to pass
utopia
-Imp
Senate is irrelivant per the rule of law.
you not american, if you are, you would know that the senate is irrelivant, and only the house would be - only if a 268/268 (in that case the Federal House rules via the top 3 states - per their elector college values (so that means CA, NY, and??????? FL? rules - so Biden wins by refault), and since its not that only relivence is the State House of PA (or other State houses) per your arguement.
and since the pop vote is via Bidon, the only way Chump can win is by buying out PA (and/or other State EC votes - since the EC is not mandated to refect the popular will.................so ya Chump can in theory brib those state reps - who will conveine in december - to side against the pop vote,and so win the election.
is this what you wish for?
fully legal under my Constitution, though i would not welcome. being against the popular will.
So clarifiy, do you wish for the popular will to be ignored if the State Legislatures affirm rump as president in spite of said will?
-------it would be fully legal, and though legal, i would not like, you would? why so?
clarify why support ignoring popular vote/wish?........
tell me how federal laws are passed?
refer to above, Senate is not relivent to general elections.
to not know this must mean you are not an American.
Federal House has a say when the EC is tied to 268/268, - the the top 3 states with the highest ''''EC determines who become the President.
othrewise if not 268/268 it is left up to the State Legislatures - who have no legal mandate to reflect the popular will (thus "faithless electors) - shall determine who is the next president of the United States.
- so Senate is irrelivent - you a dumb American or non dumb non american? honestly asking here.
Civics is a good thing BTW - for all citizens on all nations over the globe.
ignorance is not good in any case.
Impenitent wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:49 am
what else does the senate have to approve?
hello gridlock
I support the electoral college as prescribed in constitution- America has never been a democracy
queen hillary won the popular vote too
sober up
-Imp
well, even drunker than a skunk i seem to run circles around you Imp per civics.
take that fact as you shall.
Cletus.
Re: Trump's loss is by more than 4 million people...
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:50 am
by henry quirk
no, there is no stealing of elections, just rump's refusal to accept defeat and his sheep that follow his lead - affirming all delusions without evidence, as long as Dear Leader tells them to "beleive" they do as good brainstems.
as you like
(i noted you did not answer my question to you as one gentleman to another - per Rule of Law/will of the People/PA house being bought out to make Rump King in spite of popuiar will (I note your dodge. - welcome your views on such, but since you dodged it, not expecting much from you sadly - i think it important, you dont, so sad you dodged it).
I answered your question up-thread only two hours ago...
henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:53 am
i ask you as one man to another, what if the PA state house is bribbed to make "faithless electorates"
I wouldn't like that at all...
...you even responded
Re: Trump's loss is by more than 4 million people...
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:55 am
by gaffo
henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:50 am
no, there is no stealing of elections, just rump's refusal to accept defeat and his sheep that follow his lead - affirming all delusions without evidence, as long as Dear Leader tells them to "beleive" they do as good brainstems.
as you like
(i noted you did not answer my question to you as one gentleman to another - per Rule of Law/will of the People/PA house being bought out to make Rump King in spite of popuiar will (I note your dodge. - welcome your views on such, but since you dodged it, not expecting much from you sadly - i think it important, you dont, so sad you dodged it).
I answered your question up-thread only two hours ago...
henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:53 am
i ask you as one man to another, what if the PA state house is bribbed to make "faithless electorates"
I wouldn't like that at all...
...you even responded
??? I'm fucking drunk as a skunk, clarify your intent, please Sir.
do we agree or not, and in what do agree/dissagree about.
small works.short sentances -esp in my state now would be apreciated, since i would like to converse, and know what/whom i an conversing with.
- i still like you even though i think your philosophy "not on my lawn" is too limited, and you think i am "crazy", and not a Libertarian.
Re: Trump's loss is by more than 4 million people...
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:58 am
by henry quirk
I'm fucking drunk as a skunk
then we can pick this conversation up when you're sober
g'night
Re: Trump's loss is by more than 4 million people...
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:02 am
by gaffo
I have a few Chess games in the next hour with my best friend 10 blocks down (yes i walk when drunk - though drunker than shit, still have horse sense/moral compass so no diving).So if i do not hear from you in the hour, you will not hear from me until next week - i.e. my usual "Weekend drunk" routine per me showing up here on this forum.
Re: Trump's loss is by more than 4 million people...
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:03 am
by gaffo
henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:58 am
I'm fucking drunk as a skunk
then we can pick this conversation up when you're sober
g'night
um. nope, only time i show up here is when drunk. so if you wish to talk i'll be here until my chess date in 50 minutes, or until i am drunk again next weekend.
thanks for reply Henry.
Re: Trump's loss is by more than 4 million people...
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:22 am
by gaffo
Henry, i have my chess date with my BF down the street, so am out of here. walking down the street.
i do hope you have something to contribute per the Rule of Law/democracy as one gentleman to another for me to reply to next weekend.
peace Sir!
Re: Trump's loss is by more than 4 million people...
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:05 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
gaffo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:03 am
only time i show up here is when drunk.
That explains a lot...