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Re: "a sane passer by"

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:48 am
by henry quirk
What kind of loon would take it seriously?

That must be me...'course, I'm a moral realist, so: wacky questions are par for the course.

Anyway: I'm tired of entertainin' you, so - and I'm askin' nice - please, go piss in somebody else's pool.

Re: "a sane passer by"

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:03 am
by FlashDangerpants
henry quirk wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:48 am What kind of loon would take it seriously?

That must be me...'course, I'm a moral realist, so: wacky questions are par for the course.

Anyway: I'm tired of entertainin' you, so - and I'm askin' nice - please, go piss in somebody else's pool.
you can lobby Amod to intercede on your behalf; me, I ain't doin' shit for you

'nuff said

Re: brief history of, and a perspective on, a bad idea

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:34 am
by gaffo
henry quirk wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:25 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:05 pm
Nick_A wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:12 am Henry

I'm interested in your perspective on the question of equality. First, do you believe equal opportunity is a possible ideal in a society which values prestige? In the animal world it is called survival of the fittest. I don't believe so and it seems that practical people understand it so value personal freedom. Of course the "educated" believe it does provided the right experts are put in charge to create the socialists utopia. Practical people see right through this fantasy.

But is a society where equality of opportunity possible even if it doesn't exist now? As a practical person is equality of opportunity a possible but distant ideal or is what you see is what you get regardless of all the platitudes suggesting the opposite..
I believe the preferred alt-right terminology your people use for someone who throws his master such a pathetic softball for grandstanding as that is "beta cuck".
:thumbsdown:
I reject you assumption that Henry is an "alt-right"

he is an old school Eastwood - get off my lawn Libertarian.

though both Liberarians he is on the other side economically - me being a near socialist - neither of us are racist.

just defending your honour here Henry

Re: brief history of, and a perspective on, a bad idea

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:39 am
by gaffo
henry quirk wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:28 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:06 pm Shouldn't crap that can't withstand basic scrutiny and which can only be defended by feebly waving emojis be reserved for Facebook instead of what purports (albeit with little validity) to be a philosophy forum?
you can lobby Amod to intercede on your behalf; me, I ain't doin' shit for you

'nuff said
which amod? "a" or "i", a and i have conversed yrs ago - a spat actually, but we agree to dissagree, so i like "a" mod.

not had the pleasure to converse with "i" mod, so cannot contribute to his/her character.

Re: brief history of, and a perspective on, a bad idea

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:53 am
by gaffo
did not read the link, AFAIK it was saying "Communists bad"

i agree,

but me being a old fuck and remebering when ameican had in income tax of 70 percent for the top 1 percent, - instead of the 20 or so we have had since Reagan, i do not think trickdown works............middle class get smaller and smaller (and why Rump won in the rust belt in 16 - trickle dont work, Billary's "its all fine" did not wash with those masses)

so ya im all for taxing the rich - back during Eisenhower ara (a good man and good president and a Republican BTW!!!!!!) - 70 percent, same as 20 yrs later during Carter (terrible president, though a good man), but is sure as shit am no communist and why i value our Bill of Rights!!!!!!! - securing mod rule from userping the rights of the individual/minority).


But sadly - due to Corporate Welfare/Global Corporatism. via the low taxs and so no trickledown - and so the death of the middleclass, most since the 70's now in the underclass, though the BoR defends the individual from oppresssion of the majority - what good is that when the oligarchs have bought the Constitution itself - and perverted it/or just ignore it - to serve their own ends!!!!!!??????????

Re: brief history of, and a perspective on, a bad idea

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:36 am
by henry quirk
just defending your honour here Henry

:thumbsup:


which amod?

the Amod...he's okay


not had the pleasure to converse with "i" mod

me neither...I think he might be a fiction


so ya im all for taxing the rich

not me...get a small, fixed, national sales tax in place and gov can live within its means

Re: "a sane passer by"

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:43 am
by henry quirk
FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:03 am
henry quirk wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:48 am What kind of loon would take it seriously?

That must be me...'course, I'm a moral realist, so: wacky questions are par for the course.

Anyway: I'm tired of entertainin' you, so - and I'm askin' nice - please, go piss in somebody else's pool.
you can lobby Amod to intercede on your behalf; me, I ain't doin' shit for you

'nuff said
bye

Re: brief history of, and a perspective on, a bad idea

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:21 am
by FlashDangerpants
gaffo wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:34 am
henry quirk wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:25 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:05 pm
I believe the preferred alt-right terminology your people use for someone who throws his master such a pathetic softball for grandstanding as that is "beta cuck".
:thumbsdown:
I reject you assumption that Henry is an "alt-right"

he is an old school Eastwood - get off my lawn Libertarian.

though both Liberarians he is on the other side economically - me being a near socialist - neither of us are racist.

just defending your honour here Henry
Henry is fooling himself and so are you. An actual libertarian would not fall into line with every right wing talking point the way Henry does. He's a straight up case of identity politics, always agreeing with the same people, always pushing for conservatism and conformism, and always willing to trade any libertarian principle away in order to do so.

As for the racism thing ... maybe. It's entirely possible that he was friends with the guy who called black people "low IQ monkeys" just because that dude was a fellow traveller in Trump MAGA brigade, although he conspicuously never dealt with the fact his friend was openly a white supremacist neo-nazi, something that for an actual libertarian non-racist would be a show stopper. And it's possible that he's recently been excusing the murders of black men by cops just because the people he likes on the authoritarian alt-right blog scene are doing that. And perhaps when he promoted "THE CAMP OF THE SAINTS" he somehow failed to get the whole racism train that book kicked off, all that nativist, grand replacement theory stuff that the alt-right loves to preach. So perhaps Henry isn't racist himself, and is just a very loyal follower of people who are.

Re: brief history of, and a perspective on, a bad idea

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:59 pm
by Lacewing
FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:21 am An actual libertarian would not fall into line with every right wing talking point the way Henry does. He's a straight up case of identity politics, always agreeing with the same people, always pushing for conservatism and conformism, and always willing to trade any libertarian principle away in order to do so.
Yep! Henry is a FOLLOWER! He gives his mind away to whatever viewpoint, news channel, platform stokes and supports his skewed ignorance. Then, like an extremist, he spreads it as if he is a voice of reason and truth for peddling such limited and distorted nonsense. He's not likely to change anyone's mind from what they're already observing (more broadly than he) for themselves. So it ends up being just a bunch of noise, and I agree that it belongs on dumbass social media sites, NOT here in a philosophy forum.

The irony of Henry not wanting things imposed on him... yet he imposes so much garbage where it doesn't belong.

Sit on your thumb, Henry.

judged by two lemmings...

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:53 pm
by henry quirk
meh

Re: brief history of, and a perspective on, a bad idea

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:56 am
by gaffo
FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:21 am
gaffo wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:34 am
henry quirk wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:25 pm

:thumbsdown:
I reject you assumption that Henry is an "alt-right"

he is an old school Eastwood - get off my lawn Libertarian.

though both Liberarians he is on the other side economically - me being a near socialist - neither of us are racist.

just defending your honour here Henry
Henry is fooling himself and so are you. An actual libertarian would not fall into line with every right wing talking point the way Henry does. He's a straight up case of identity politics, always agreeing with the same people, always pushing for conservatism and conformism, and always willing to trade any libertarian principle away in order to do so.
the Libertarian Party used to share my values - esp during Iraqnam (15 yrs ago - you too young to rember that time?).

Libertarians value Civil Liberties - esp of the minority (one) - vs the Mob, with understanding to my Constitution's Bill of rights - to defend the one, vs the mob.

as for Henry, i've noted his post since i've been here, and he does not show himself as a racist in any way.


my advice to you is to allow the accussed (you seem to be the accuser here) - let the accuser define his character.

not the accuser.

fuck, your mentality does not seem to show much character from you.

just sayin.

Re: brief history of, and a perspective on, a bad idea

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:06 am
by gaffo
henry quirk wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:36 am just defending your honour here Henry

:thumbsup:


which amod?

the Amod...he's okay
ya i like amod from the sparing we did 3 yrs ago.

we agreed to disagreed, fine by me.

not that i is important, but the whole arguement i had with amod was that i was the guest of his house (this forum) so as his guest he should not weald the censorship sword.


henry quirk wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:36 am not had the pleasure to converse with "i" mod

me neither...I think he might be a fiction
not into conspiracy theories, so assume there is an I-mod, which i've not had the pleasure to converse with.



henry quirk wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:36 am
so ya im all for taxing the rich

not me...get a small, fixed, national sales tax in place and gov can live within its means
I make no assumptions upon your finances, only here to defend your character - from what i know of your posts, which i view is a good character.

thats all - i hate bullies in any form, and that is what i see in this thread.

if you post some racist filth (I know you will not - just saying in theory) i'll not defend you from the bullies.

..........

if you did post such, and showed yourself as someone i did not think these past 3 yrs, i'd still hate the bullies.

for what they are.

thanks for reply anyhow.

Re: brief history of, and a perspective on, a bad idea

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:02 pm
by FlashDangerpants
gaffo wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:56 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:21 am
gaffo wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:34 am

I reject you assumption that Henry is an "alt-right"

he is an old school Eastwood - get off my lawn Libertarian.

though both Liberarians he is on the other side economically - me being a near socialist - neither of us are racist.

just defending your honour here Henry
Henry is fooling himself and so are you. An actual libertarian would not fall into line with every right wing talking point the way Henry does. He's a straight up case of identity politics, always agreeing with the same people, always pushing for conservatism and conformism, and always willing to trade any libertarian principle away in order to do so.
the Libertarian Party used to share my values - esp during Iraqnam (15 yrs ago - you too young to rember that time?).

Libertarians value Civil Liberties - esp of the minority (one) - vs the Mob, with understanding to my Constitution's Bill of rights - to defend the one, vs the mob.

as for Henry, i've noted his post since i've been here, and he does not show himself as a racist in any way.


my advice to you is to allow the accussed (you seem to be the accuser here) - let the accuser define his character.

not the accuser.

fuck, your mentality does not seem to show much character from you.

just sayin.
Henry has happily claimed that only people on the right wing are able to view other human beings as basically good. Do you, as a self proclaimed lefty, lack this basic human capability?

Henry is perfectly happy to throw terrible accusations around with no justification, so my advice to you, as the drunkard who accuses me of stuff they do, is to fuck yourself.

Re: brief history of, and a perspective on, a bad idea

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:22 pm
by henry quirk
Henry has happily claimed that only people on the right wing are able to view other human beings as basically good.

Nope. You're mistaken or just flat-out lyin'.


Henry is perfectly happy to throw terrible accusations around with no justification.

Give us an example.


fuck yourself

You first.

Re: brief history of, and a perspective on, a bad idea

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:23 pm
by henry quirk
gaffo wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:06 am
henry quirk wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:36 am just defending your honour here Henry

:thumbsup:


which amod?

the Amod...he's okay
ya i like amod from the sparing we did 3 yrs ago.

we agreed to disagreed, fine by me.

not that i is important, but the whole arguement i had with amod was that i was the guest of his house (this forum) so as his guest he should not weald the censorship sword.


henry quirk wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:36 am not had the pleasure to converse with "i" mod

me neither...I think he might be a fiction
not into conspiracy theories, so assume there is an I-mod, which i've not had the pleasure to converse with.



henry quirk wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:36 am
so ya im all for taxing the rich

not me...get a small, fixed, national sales tax in place and gov can live within its means
I make no assumptions upon your finances, only here to defend your character - from what i know of your posts, which i view is a good character.

thats all - i hate bullies in any form, and that is what i see in this thread.

if you post some racist filth (I know you will not - just saying in theory) i'll not defend you from the bullies.

..........

if you did post such, and showed yourself as someone i did not think these past 3 yrs, i'd still hate the bullies.

for what they are.

thanks for reply anyhow.
:thumbsup: