Does Trump have a coherent strategy for Corona?

[Sculptor]

In the runup to the 2016 presidential election, there was a guy on this forum who reported to us all this stuff he read onWikipedia about various members of the trump team and their connections to foriegn governments. He then read stuff about those same people in the normal media. For a san person, you might presume that the information went media > wikpi > Bill. But he did not. Because he was a genuine certifiable narcissist, he got himself worked up at the thought that CNN was follwoing his posts here, and then reporting on the information they read on this forum. That's how narcisism works.

Trump has believed all along that Corona is about him. People don't seem to get that he is genuinely mad, and that's why nobody can seem to deal with him appropriately. We've been using 'narcisist' as a synonym for big-headed for so long that everyone has forgotten that it has a clinical meaning. And now one of them is in a position of great power, where some stuff actually IS about him, and that confirmation loop cannot work out well for somebody who has daily difficulty understanding that there is anything at all that is not about about them.

So yeah, all along Trump has thought that Corona was about fucking him over personally some way. When he said it was a media and DNC hoax to harm himn with an exagerated threat, he believed what he was saying. When the facts on the ground changed and he had to cope with this being a real disease that does kill more people than the flu, he now has to believe something else, but now he has the baked in idea it is about him, that won't be shaken, so now he is darkly hinting that the Chinese made the virus to hurt him.

All the while, everyone keeps behaving as if he doesn't believe his own words. He doesn't have to be a master strategist, his enemies are outthinking themselves on his behalf.

I'm not sure what fits better; egocentrism or narcissism. I've settled on the latter since the former would be more obviously childlike.
What you describe would also include some sort of persecution complex - they are out to get him because he is the best.
What is worrying is his ability to flip from one place to another as if no one noticed - like one day he seriously considers UV light and disinfectant, the next day it was "being sarcastic". I cannot believe that a politician in the UK would ever get away with such idiocy.
When Prince Andrew, trying to divert attention from his association with the pedophile Epstein, told a news reporter in an interview that he has lost the ability to sweat, following an witness account of him dancing till he wet his shirt. The whole story was roundly ridiculed in the media, with no hope of coming back from that. He was forced to cancel his public appointments.
What people in the UK find astonishing is how Teflon Trump seems to be.
Trump has been flipping positions and sacking people who do not agree with him, for his whole term. The last outrage is his withholding medical supplies to Blue states.

Some people sweat very little. And a pAedophile is someone who rapes CHILDREN BEFORE PUBERTY. In the US a 'minor' is not a synonym for 'child'. I didn't think illiteracy was one of your many obnoxious traits. Epstein was friends with practically everyone in Hollywood--that must make them ALL 'pAedophiles' by association to Sun readers like yourself.

There is a photo if him sweating like a pig exactly where is said he was not present.
An underage person is a child. Epstein was a serial pedophile.
I am disgusted that you want to defend this practice.
Any adult fucking a child is a pedophile.
I don't, and never will read the sun.
Now why don't you go back to enjoying the company of your young nephew in the outback where no one can see you!

[Dontaskme]

Don't know about dealing strategies when it comes to the Corona war. He's probably as much in the dark on this one as would be any other world leader, since this would be the first human pandemic of it's kind this century that no human has ever experienced before. And that's not all, this virus is also attacking the world economy that humans depend on for their livelyhoods. The economic downfall is no mans fault, it's just one of the many symptoms of this Corona virus disease that's attacking all of humanity right now, and so we are all in the same boat, not one single one of us has that magic wand that can make it all go away and be better, no matter how one likes to think otherwise.
This is entirely up to nature and what tide it wants to turn, for better or worse, it's natures wrath, not mans.... the only role humans have to play in this whole drama, is to try and organise natures ways to suit and model their own ideals as to how things should be, according to their own agendas and plans...and yet as we see today, try telling nature your plans, and just see what happens. You just might not get what you wanted, and who's fault it is? ... it's nobodies fault..

That said, I've heard through the grapevine thatTrump is going to turn [Human Trafficking] on it's arse and stamp it out completely. And beware all ye [Pedophiles] - Trump is coming to get ya, because Trump believes in goodness and a fairness especially when it comes to innocent children that cannot defend themselves at the hands of the giant billionaire beasts, who think their money will protect them from their self, and that is half the problem with the Anti-Trump troopers, they are actually jealous and scared of Trump, because this man doesn't give a shit about what other people think of him which makes him a true fearless warrior, the ultimate soldier of sacrifice in times of war, be it with the 'human mind' of devilry and deceit, or with invisible enemies like viruses.

Trump is a God man, I mean a good man, and that's why he is americas leader right now, he's the best president america will ever see in this century or in the entire human lifespan, however long that may last.

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[vegetariantaxidermy]

I'm not sure what fits better; egocentrism or narcissism. I've settled on the latter since the former would be more obviously childlike.
What you describe would also include some sort of persecution complex - they are out to get him because he is the best.
What is worrying is his ability to flip from one place to another as if no one noticed - like one day he seriously considers UV light and disinfectant, the next day it was "being sarcastic". I cannot believe that a politician in the UK would ever get away with such idiocy.
When Prince Andrew, trying to divert attention from his association with the pedophile Epstein, told a news reporter in an interview that he has lost the ability to sweat, following an witness account of him dancing till he wet his shirt. The whole story was roundly ridiculed in the media, with no hope of coming back from that. He was forced to cancel his public appointments.
What people in the UK find astonishing is how Teflon Trump seems to be.
Trump has been flipping positions and sacking people who do not agree with him, for his whole term. The last outrage is his withholding medical supplies to Blue states.

Some people sweat very little. And a pAedophile is someone who rapes CHILDREN BEFORE PUBERTY. In the US a 'minor' is not a synonym for 'child'. I didn't think illiteracy was one of your many obnoxious traits. Epstein was friends with practically everyone in Hollywood--that must make them ALL 'pAedophiles' by association to Sun readers like yourself.

There is a photo if him sweating like a pig exactly where is said he was not present.
An underage person is a child. Epstein was a serial pedophile.
I am disgusted that you want to defend this practice.
Any adult fucking a child is a pedophile.
I don't, and never will read the sun.
Now why don't you go back to enjoying the company of your young nephew in the outback where no one can see you!

Do you know what 'underage' is in the US? A 17 year old is NOT a child. Actual paedophiles love this. It takes the heat off THEM when everyone these days who has sex with young women is called a 'paedophile'. You can't compare someone who rapes two year olds with a man who has sex with young, fully developed women! Call him what he is--a sleaze ball, but NOT a fucking paedophile.
Thou dost protest too loudly (or words to that effect). I've notice a lot of men 'loudly protesting' and projecting over these cases.
I don't buy into the whole witch-hunt thing. I hate mobs. Don't even like groups.

[commonsense]

Don't know about dealing strategies when it comes to the Corona war. He's probably as much in the dark on this one as would be any other world leader, since this would be the first human pandemic of it's kind this century that no human has ever experienced before. And that's not all, this virus is also attacking the world economy that humans depend on for their livelyhoods. The economic downfall is no mans fault, it's just one of the many symptoms of this Corona virus disease that's attacking all of humanity right now, and so we are all in the same boat, not one single one of us has that magic wand that can make it all go away and be better, no matter how one likes to think otherwise.
This is entirely up to nature and what tide it wants to turn, for better or worse, it's natures wrath, not mans.... the only role humans have to play in this whole drama, is to try and organise natures ways to suit and model their own ideals as to how things should be, according to their own agendas and plans...and yet as we see today, try telling nature your plans, and just see what happens. You just might not get what you wanted, and who's fault it is? ... it's nobodies fault..

That said, I've heard through the grapevine thatTrump is going to turn [Human Trafficking] on it's arse and stamp it out completely. And beware all ye [Pedophiles] - Trump is coming to get ya, because Trump believes in goodness and a fairness especially when it comes to innocent children that cannot defend themselves at the hands of the giant billionaire beasts, who think their money will protect them from their self, and that is half the problem with the Anti-Trump troopers, they are actually jealous and scared of Trump, because this man doesn't give a shit about what other people think of him which makes him a true fearless warrior, the ultimate soldier of sacrifice in times of war, be it with the 'human mind' of devilry and deceit, or with invisible enemies like viruses.

Trump is a God man, I mean a good man, and that's why he is americas leader right now, he's the best president america will ever see in this century or in the entire human lifespan, however long that may last.

You have drunk the Koolaid.

[Sculptor]

Don't know about dealing strategies when it comes to the Corona war. He's probably as much in the dark on this one as would be any other world leader, since this would be the first human pandemic of it's kind this century that no human has ever experienced before.

The trouble is that he thinks he knows more than anyone else. He's now claimed knowledge that it started in a lab in China. Today they took him off the press conference to mitigate the damage of his stupidity and the press secretary has downplayed his bullshit.
Yes, he knows very little about the virus, and he is not capable of listening to those that do in fact know a lot more than him.

And that's not all, this virus is also attacking the world economy that humans depend on for their livelyhoods. The economic downfall is no mans fault, it's just one of the many symptoms of this Corona virus disease that's attacking all of humanity right now, and so we are all in the same boat, not one single one of us has that magic wand that can make it all go away and be better, no matter how one likes to think otherwise.

This is not an excuse for his wilful ignorance.

This is entirely up to nature and what tide it wants to turn, for better or worse, it's natures wrath, not mans.... the only role humans have to play in this whole drama, is to try and organise natures ways to suit and model their own ideals as to how things should be, according to their own agendas and plans...and yet as we see today, try telling nature your plans, and just see what happens. You just might not get what you wanted, and who's fault it is? ... it's nobodies fault..

That said, I've heard through the grapevine thatTrump is going to turn [Human Trafficking] on it's arse and stamp it out completely. And beware all ye [Pedophiles] - Trump is coming to get ya, because Trump believes in goodness and a fairness especially when it comes to innocent children that cannot defend themselves at the hands of the giant billionaire beasts, who think their money will protect them from their self, and that is half the problem with the Anti-Trump troopers, they are actually jealous and scared of Trump, because this man doesn't give a shit about what other people think of him which makes him a true fearless warrior, the ultimate soldier of sacrifice in times of war, be it with the 'human mind' of devilry and deceit, or with invisible enemies like viruses.

Trump is gonna be out of office. He says much and delivers little. I am seriously astounded at your naivete on this matter. You are laughable.

Trump is a God man,

ROTFLMFHOUIROOT

I mean a good man, and that's why he is americas leader right now, he's the best president america will ever see in this century or in the entire human lifespan, however long that may last.

.

BWAHHHHHHH!!

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I'm not sure what fits better; egocentrism or narcissism. I've settled on the latter since the former would be more obviously childlike.
What you describe would also include some sort of persecution complex - they are out to get him because he is the best.
What is worrying is his ability to flip from one place to another as if no one noticed - like one day he seriously considers UV light and disinfectant, the next day it was "being sarcastic". I cannot believe that a politician in the UK would ever get away with such idiocy.
When Prince Andrew, trying to divert attention from his association with the pedophile Epstein, told a news reporter in an interview that he has lost the ability to sweat, following an witness account of him dancing till he wet his shirt. The whole story was roundly ridiculed in the media, with no hope of coming back from that. He was forced to cancel his public appointments.
What people in the UK find astonishing is how Teflon Trump seems to be.
Trump has been flipping positions and sacking people who do not agree with him, for his whole term. The last outrage is his withholding medical supplies to Blue states.

Some people sweat very little. And a pAedophile is someone who rapes CHILDREN BEFORE PUBERTY. In the US a 'minor' is not a synonym for 'child'. I didn't think illiteracy was one of your many obnoxious traits. Epstein was friends with practically everyone in Hollywood--that must make them ALL 'pAedophiles' by association to Sun readers like yourself.

There is a photo if him sweating like a pig exactly where is said he was not present.
An underage person is a child. Epstein was a serial pedophile.
I am disgusted that you want to defend this practice.
Any adult fucking a child is a pedophile.
I don't, and never will read the sun.
Now why don't you go back to enjoying the company of your young nephew in the outback where no one can see you!

Ok, since fuckturds like you insist on changing word meanings to suit yourselves, then I will put it out there that essentially all men are 'paedophiles' since, apparently, any man who has sex with, or who even thinks about having sex with an underage woman, is now a paedophile (and this includes any man who associates with a man who thinks about having sex with underage women, or non-underage women as long as they are young). There you have it. The word is now a synonym for 'man'.

[Sculptor]

Another hint as to Trump's strategy is that Dr Fauci has been blocked from giving evidence at the latest Covid hearing, by the "White House".

Not only is this a serious breach of democratic protocol; the executive should not dictate to the judiciary. It is a clear act to silence the man who is best qualified to give a science based view.
With 50 years of relevant experience Fauci has a CV as long as your arm, having advised Reagan and Clinton, made massive contributions to HIV/AIDS, Ebola, and been on the COVID advisory.
Awards and Honours.
1979: Arthur S. Flemming Award[34]
1993: Honorary Doctor of Science, Bates College[35]
1995: Ernst Jung Prize (shared with Samuel A. Wells, Jr.)[36]
1995: Honorary Doctor of Science, Duke University[37]
1996: Honorary Doctor of Science, Colgate University[38]
1999: Honorary Doctor of Public Service Degree, Shippensburg University of Pennsylvania[39]
2002: Albany Medical Center Prize[40]
2003: American Academy of Achievement's Golden Plate Award[41]
2005: National Medal of Science[42]
2005: American Association of Immunologists Lifetime Achievement Award[43]
2007: Mary Woodard Lasker Public Service Award[44]
2007: George M. Kober Medal, Association of American Physicians[45]
2008: Presidential Medal of Freedom[41]
2013: Robert Koch Gold Medal[46]
2013: Prince Mahidol Award[47]
2016: John Dirks Canada Gairdner Global Health Award[48]
2018: Honorary Doctor of Science, Commencement Speaker, American University

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Wow. All those awards and 'honorary degrees'. Must have kissed a lot of arses.

[Sculptor]

Wow. All those awards and 'honorary degrees'. Must have kissed a lot of arses.

In 2003, the Institute for Scientific Information stated that from 1983 to 2002, "Fauci was the 13th most-cited scientist among the 2.5 to 3 million authors in all disciplines throughout the world who published articles in scientific journals
PS and FUCK OFF

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Wow. All those awards and 'honorary degrees'. Must have kissed a lot of arses.

In 2003, the Institute for Scientific Information stated that from 1983 to 2002, "Fauci was the 13th most-cited scientist among the 2.5 to 3 million authors in all disciplines throughout the world who published articles in scientific journals
PS and FUCK OFF

You are getting more and more gullible and clueless by the day.

[henry quirk]

Wow. All those awards and 'honorary degrees'. Must have kissed a lot of arses.

Fauci used to be a scientist; nowadays, he just another politician.

[Dontaskme]

This is not an excuse for his wilful ignorance.

Think what you like - but I happen to think he's an honest, genuine, and decent straight-up-down-to-earth kind of guy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8wJc7vHcTs

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Wow. All those awards and 'honorary degrees'. Must have kissed a lot of arses.

In 2003, the Institute for Scientific Information stated that from 1983 to 2002, "Fauci was the 13th most-cited scientist among the 2.5 to 3 million authors in all disciplines throughout the world who published articles in scientific journals
PS and FUCK OFF

Where's that photo of Prince Andrew sweating?

[Dontaskme]

Another hint as to Trump's strategy is that Dr Fauci has been blocked from giving evidence at the latest Covid hearing, by the "White House".

Not only is this a serious breach of democratic protocol; the executive should not dictate to the judiciary. It is a clear act to silence the man who is best qualified to give a science based view.

So what, we'll just silence Trump instead?

Look mate, even you don't know what's really going on. . you are just reading the media news reports like everyone else, and making from it your own self bias conclusion of what you believe is happening.

That's why Trump wants the real truth to out.

And lets hope Dr Fauci doesn't take it personally. Trump only wants what's best, he wants to uncover the lies in favor of truth.

Science is also a religion.

Who's right, who knows the real truth..god or man?



Reports: Bombshell US intelligence claims China lied about coronavirus outbreak.
Trump said he had seen evidence that coronavirus may have been created in the Chinese lab.
Information on asymptomatic carriers of the covid 19 disease was 'kept silent' by the Chinese state.

If China has been covering up information by lying, they will be held accountable and billed for their crimes against humanity...you'll see, just wait and see what happens. Trump will get to the bottom of all this, no doubt.

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[Gary Childress]

In a thread on Twitter, David Frum claimed reports the White House is now pivoting its pandemic messaging to the economy showed Trump is "consciously choosing to risk higher virus casualties" in the second quarter of 2020 "in hope of jolting the economy into revival in Q3 to save his re-election" in November.

"It's a desperate gamble to save himself by sacrificing others," wrote Frum, who is now a senior editor at The Atlantic, warning: "It's also not very likely to work."
From Yahoo News.

This is assuming that Trump is clear headed enough to think this thing through.
An old friend of mine used to say "no one ever got anywhere overestimating the intelligence of the American Public". It's my view that people tend to mistakenly see intentions and schemes in Trump's actions, and that this leads to a series of confused analyses. When I point this out, unrepentantly, they say "Ah but that's all part of Trump's MO, to keep people guessing at his real intentions"
I think it is crystal clear. Trump is basically stupid. Nothing said that more than the now legendary "disinfectant" press conference. The advice should be "no one ever got anywhere by overestimating the intelligence of Donald Trump."

Either Trump is an evil, hyper-intelligent Machiavellian monster, able to manipulate the public, or not. There is no middle ground considering his actions.
Personally I think Trump is just as dumb as the majority of the unwashed public, and that this is how he is able to appeal so widely. He thinks like they do. Any gaffs he makes are soon forgotten, or seldom noticed. And the establishment that surrounds him, Ivy Leaguers, cannot bring themselves to understand that a person who so thoroughly and viscerally embodies the ideological ideal of their precious capitalist state, and has achieved the highest office could be thick as pig shit.

Confirmed, reported Covid 19 deaths; 61,669
Weekly increase: 13,775

I don't know if I would call Trump "evil". He's definitely misguided about a lot of things, however, he's actually been a bit more pacifist than many of our previous presidents. I think his handling of North Korea and Russia have actually been pretty good. We're not on quite as antagonistic terms with them as we once were. Of course, he's gotten us into worse relations with China but he seems to be right that we've become too dependent on China (as evidenced by supply shortages here during the COVID 19 crisis). I actually think it was better that we got Trump instead of Clinton. Clinton would have kept us at odds with Russia and North Korea, probably even worsened it and it would have been business as usual with respect to China. Now does that mean Trump is ideal? Absolutely not. I'm sure there are far better candidates out there--one's that would work better with or pay more attention to scientific expertise. But "evil"? I think that's a little harsh.