Page 2 of 2

Re: I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:33 pm
by Greatest I am
Then who?

Regards
DL

Re: I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:39 pm
by henry quirk
Greatest I am wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:33 pm Then who?

Regards
DL
Good question.

Hell if I know.

I infer certain things about The Creator's character, but, as he's absent, Inferences are all I got.

Re: I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:07 pm
by Greatest I am
henry quirk wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:39 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:33 pm Then who?

Regards
DL
Good question.

Hell if I know.

I infer certain things about The Creator's character, but, as he's absent, Inferences are all I got.
Good enough.

Regards
DL

Re: I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:35 pm
by bahman
Greatest I am wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:39 pm I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?

As a Gnostic Christian, I follow the esoteric teachings of Jesus.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

This fits perfectly with the bibles teachings that we are to judge all things and hold to the good.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.

This is a compulsion to be our own masters instead of just kowtowing to someone else’s opinions.

This is also why Christians used their inquisitions on us. Freedom of thought was not allowed by Christianity.

A concept and freedom that Christians now seem to promote.

Many Christians follow the teachings of, to us, a genocidal and infanticidal demiurge, Yahweh.

How Christians can see him as a good god is beyond me and Christians shy away from any apologetics as to why they think such a satanic god is good.

I see my judgements as more moral than that immoral demiurge and that is why I have rejected him for Jesus.

Do you follow 1 Thessalonians 5:21, or do you let someone else do your judging for you?

Regards
DL
I am open to other people's judgment and guidance too. There is no higher authority in my world-view.

Re: I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:53 pm
by Immanuel Can
Greatest I am wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:39 pm I am my highest authority, judge and guide.
I guess we'll find out if that's true or not.

Re: I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:04 pm
by Sculptor
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:53 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:39 pm I am my highest authority, judge and guide.
I guess we'll find out if that's true or not.
If you were ever honest with yourself, GIA's statement would be appropriate to describe yourself as much as anyone else.

Since you assert yourself as your own highest authority I can't see why you think you need to wait to find out. As you always do you simply compare GIA's assertions and positions to your own and decide that yours is better.

Re: I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:05 pm
by Sculptor
bahman wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:35 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:39 pm I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?

As a Gnostic Christian, I follow the esoteric teachings of Jesus.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

This fits perfectly with the bibles teachings that we are to judge all things and hold to the good.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.

This is a compulsion to be our own masters instead of just kowtowing to someone else’s opinions.

This is also why Christians used their inquisitions on us. Freedom of thought was not allowed by Christianity.

A concept and freedom that Christians now seem to promote.

Many Christians follow the teachings of, to us, a genocidal and infanticidal demiurge, Yahweh.

How Christians can see him as a good god is beyond me and Christians shy away from any apologetics as to why they think such a satanic god is good.

I see my judgements as more moral than that immoral demiurge and that is why I have rejected him for Jesus.

Do you follow 1 Thessalonians 5:21, or do you let someone else do your judging for you?

Regards
DL
I am open to other people's judgment and guidance too. There is no higher authority in my world-view.
But you decide in the end.

Re: I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:27 pm
by Greatest I am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:53 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:39 pm I am my highest authority, judge and guide.
I guess we'll find out if that's true or not.
It is true now and reality should be what all respond to and not some invisible imaginary entity.

Regards
DL

Re: I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:34 pm
by Immanuel Can
Greatest I am wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:27 pm It is true now and reality should be what all respond to and not some invisible imaginary entity.
Well, we'll see.

Everybody thinks he's his own boss, until he dies. Then he either finds out nothing, or he finds out he wasn't his own judge in the first place.

So we'll see.

Re: I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:46 pm
by Greatest I am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:34 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:27 pm It is true now and reality should be what all respond to and not some invisible imaginary entity.
Well, we'll see.

Everybody thinks he's his own boss, until he dies. Then he either finds out nothing, or he finds out he wasn't his own judge in the first place.

So we'll see.
How should one live then?

It seems that you want to live in fear of the unknown instead of reality.

Regards
DL

Re: I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:51 pm
by Immanuel Can
Greatest I am wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:46 pm It seems that you want to live in fear of the unknown instead of reality.
"Unknown" isn't the opposite of "reality." There's plenty of reality that is unknown.

The question is not what we want to believe, but what is true regardless of whether or not we want to believe it.

Re: I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:09 pm
by Greatest I am
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:51 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:46 pm It seems that you want to live in fear of the unknown instead of reality.
"Unknown" isn't the opposite of "reality." There's plenty of reality that is unknown.

The question is not what we want to believe, but what is true regardless of whether or not we want to believe it.
The dreaded definition of words point.

Your last cannot have an answer without us going into a lot of psycho babble. Too much subjectivism in that to let us be sidetracked. Let's not go there, please.

You are correct, of course, that plenty of reality is unknown.

"Unknown" isn't the opposite of "reality."

I did not check the dictionary and would not likely disagree with them, but let me summarize.

I offer this definition for "reality".
Reality is subjective call, first and foremost, --- and collective call when in a crowd, --- and is whatever each of us perceives is real at any given point in time.

I offer this definition for "unknown".
Something that cannot be shown to exist and cannot show itself to exist. A mystery.

Is this close to your thinking?

Regards
DL

Re: I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:21 pm
by Immanuel Can
Greatest I am wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:09 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:51 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:46 pm It seems that you want to live in fear of the unknown instead of reality.
"Unknown" isn't the opposite of "reality." There's plenty of reality that is unknown.

The question is not what we want to believe, but what is true regardless of whether or not we want to believe it.
Too much subjectivism in that to let us be sidetracked. Let's not go there, please.
Incorrect. I'm being very objectivistic about that.
You are correct, of course, that plenty of reality is unknown.
Yep. What I said.