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A nice place to visit for a mental rest but not a nice place to live.
Spoken by consciousness that has not experienced effortless thought (no interior monologue) free Awareness.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:19 pmA nice place to visit for a mental rest but not a nice place to live.
But hey, if you want to be a thoughtless vegetable without awareness or thought, pay some brain surgeon to just snip in a few places and you can have your wish.
I think you might be misinterpreting what your guru was saying as he could not have been there and also saying what you put.
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DL
You said thoughtless. Not effortless thought.roydop wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 4:58 pmSpoken by consciousness that has not experienced effortless thought (no interior monologue) free Awareness.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:19 pmA nice place to visit for a mental rest but not a nice place to live.
But hey, if you want to be a thoughtless vegetable without awareness or thought, pay some brain surgeon to just snip in a few places and you can have your wish.
I think you might be misinterpreting what your guru was saying as he could not have been there and also saying what you put.
Regards
DL
What is being referred to is the transcenence of thought. Consciousness that has not yet taken the evolutionary step beyond the internal monologue will choose a lower form of self Awareness as it's frame of reference.
Awareness is interior dialog as it requires the mind to recognize that awareness.
And apparently there were times when he felt that “going out” (like everybody else) to acquire food to keep his body alive was too much of a hindrance to his spiritual goals.
I suggest that anyone who purposely enters into a state of mind that requires others to obtain** and shove food into their mouth to keep them from dying from starvation, is developing a completely impractical way of life.Wiki wrote: On arriving in Tiruvannamalai, Maharshi went to the temple of Arunachaleswara. The first few weeks he spent in the thousand-pillared hall, then shifted to other spots in the temple, and eventually to the Patala-lingam vault so that he might remain undisturbed. There, he spent days absorbed in such deep samādhi that he was unaware of the bites of vermin and pests. Seshadri Swamigal, a local saint, discovered him in the underground vault and tried to protect him. After about six weeks in the Patala-lingam, he was carried out and cleaned up. For the next two months he stayed in the Subramanya Shrine, so unaware of his body and surroundings that food had to be placed in his mouth or he would have starved.
Yes. And the species would go extinct, peacefully, in utter contentment.seeds wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 2:42 amAnd apparently there were times when he felt that “going out” (like everybody else) to acquire food to keep his body alive was too much of a hindrance to his spiritual goals.
According to Wiki:
I suggest that anyone who purposely enters into a state of mind that requires others to obtain** and shove food into their mouth to keep them from dying from starvation, is developing a completely impractical way of life.Wiki wrote: On arriving in Tiruvannamalai, Maharshi went to the temple of Arunachaleswara. The first few weeks he spent in the thousand-pillared hall, then shifted to other spots in the temple, and eventually to the Patala-lingam vault so that he might remain undisturbed. There, he spent days absorbed in such deep samādhi that he was unaware of the bites of vermin and pests. Seshadri Swamigal, a local saint, discovered him in the underground vault and tried to protect him. After about six weeks in the Patala-lingam, he was carried out and cleaned up. For the next two months he stayed in the Subramanya Shrine, so unaware of his body and surroundings that food had to be placed in his mouth or he would have starved.
**(Usually by begging for alms.)
In which case, how could that be a universally applicable way for humanity to conduct itself when, indeed, somebody (as in almost everybody) needs to go out into the awareness of the “thought and sensations” that are necessary for earning their keep?
The point is that if everyone on earth adopted the “Ramana model” wherein all they did was sit around in their underwear and offer vague and impractical advice such as that which you are attributing to Ramana above, then nothing would get done, and the gears of our societies would soon come to a screeching halt.
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seeds wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 2:42 am The point is that if everyone on earth adopted the “Ramana model” wherein all they did was sit around in their underwear and offer vague and impractical advice such as that which you are attributing to Ramana above, then nothing would get done, and the gears of our societies would soon come to a screeching halt.
In the spirit of not derailing Greatest I am’s thread, I have taken the liberty of transferring our conversation to a new thread titled: “Why the Ramana Maharshi model for humanity is flawed.”
YHWH only loves those that love him. refer to the OT.
So stalking. A proper discernment.
if you say so.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 9:35 pmSo stalking. A proper discernment.
Regards
DL
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household." - Matthew 10:34-36.
Greetings new guy.BlackChristianMind wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 10:02 am"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household." - Matthew 10:34-36.
"Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine." - Lamentations 5:10
Thank you for the welcome. I am a Bible-believing follower of Christ. "Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life." - John 8:12 If Jesus is the light, the truth, then any person who rejects him is rejecting truth and goodness. That person is instead choosing to embrace evil, darkness, error. That type of person would make any place in which they existed hell because they would continually live in error and teach others error. When you know you have the truth and people reject you, they must be cast out of any place that would be called heaven because they would turn it into hell. Look at how much false information and error is in the earth today.Greatest I am wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 6:44 pmGreetings new guy.BlackChristianMind wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 10:02 am"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household." - Matthew 10:34-36.
"Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine." - Lamentations 5:10
I am the resident Gnostic Christian.
Jesus talking.
Luke 19:27 - “But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.”
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DL