Proof that God IS ..in 6 words.

Is there a God? If so, what is She like?

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Ego, is the identification with one thing as opposed to another thing.
Ego is comparison... 'I am this. I am not that.' I identify with this. I separate myself from that.

The state we might call 'ego-less' is not really a state that is separate from ego.
If there is a separation (in our minds) between ego and ego-less, then the mind that sees that separation is ego-identified.

The state we might call 'ego-less' is a state in which ego is incorporated into the totality of being.
In this 'incorporation', the ego ceases to be something separate from 'me'. Therefore, the concept of ego (comparison) simply dissolves.

A message to the ego...
David R. Hawkins - All Fears Are Illusions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSMNIIeu4O4
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Ego is a consequence of free will and consciousness so a state of egolessness can only come with death
Even those who rigorously strive to be free from it can not achieve it in any absolute sense before then
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Same God in six as all.
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Because what you believe you create.
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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:24 am One must be first before other.
This is an argument for causality. Are you certain that the arrow of time is pointing the way you experience it?
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surreptitious57 wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:43 pm Ego is a consequence of free will and consciousness so a state of egolessness can only come with death
Even those who rigorously strive to be free from it can not achieve it in any absolute sense before then
Dying to the idea of being born is the only death.

Death arises in conjunction with birth. Both are illusory concepts of the mind.

You are never not here.

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Dontaskme wrote:
You are never not here
While I am conscious I cannot accept this as so
Only when death arrives will this come to pass

And I will have no knowledge from that point on of ever having existed
A return to non existence where I was before temporary consciousness
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surreptitious57 wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:40 pm
Dontaskme wrote:
You are never not here
While I am conscious I cannot accept this as so
Only when death arrives will this come to pass

And I will have no knowledge from that point on of ever having existed
A return to non existence where I was before temporary consciousness
You have Never known death.

That which lived never died. That which died never lived.

No I is conscious..No I is unconscious.

I Is...without comparison.

Comparison is ego ..an illusion.

Illusion is the realm of knowledge...THIS not knowing knowing.

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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:24 am One must be first before other.

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I AM therefore l think.

A thought is an illusory appearance of the I AM. (Other)

I AM IS not a thought...is not dependant on thought, but thought is wholly dependant on I Am.

A reflection of I Am.....a mirror image of the One.

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Lacewing wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:20 pm Because what you believe you create.
Miss America believes in world peace.
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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:29 pm I AM therefore l think.
The word "I" is recursive/self-referential. According to Chomsky's hierarchy it fits the definition of Type-3 regular grammar [1] e.g the kind that can be parsed by any finite state automation (colloquially called a computer).

You compute therefore you are (Descartes was SO close)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chomsky_h ... 3_grammars
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Walker wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:55 pm
Lacewing wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:20 pm Because what you believe you create.
Miss America believes in world peace.
That's the point. What someone believes doesn't mean that's what actually is. Some people believe in a god -- so therefore it "IS" for them, even though it does not exist beyond that.

Thanks for the helpful Miss America comparison to illustrate the point. :lol:
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Lacewing wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:16 pm Some people believe in a god -- so therefore it "IS" for them, even though it does not exist beyond that.
Some people believe in a person...so therefore it Is for them,even though it does not exist beyond that.

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Lacewing wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:16 pm
Walker wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:55 pm
Lacewing wrote: Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:20 pm Because what you believe you create.
Miss America believes in world peace.
That's the point. What someone believes doesn't mean that's what actually is. Some people believe in a god -- so therefore it "IS" for them, even though it does not exist beyond that.

Thanks for the helpful Miss America comparison to illustrate the point. :lol:
Existence does not require a believer.
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DAM wrote:One must be first before other.
God in six.
Less in more?
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