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It's still a heck of a lot of money.Walker wrote:13K-20Kvegetariantaxidermy wrote:I didn't suggest going private because private schools in the US cost a fortune. Unless Henry is a billionaire.
Plenty of non-billionaire kids go to private schools.
You should read about Eric Hoffer's life.vegetariantaxidermy wrote:It's still a heck of a lot of money.Walker wrote:13K-20Kvegetariantaxidermy wrote:I didn't suggest going private because private schools in the US cost a fortune. Unless Henry is a billionaire.
Plenty of non-billionaire kids go to private schools.
Please read my immediate reply to the opening post.Philosophy Explorer wrote:How do you connect the dots???bobevenson wrote:As a prophet, I just accept it. But the reason children suffer bullying in school is due 100% to the government.marjoram_blues wrote:
How did/do you cope with bullying, Bob ?
PhilX
No such thing as a free market when it comes to schooling. It's either public schooling funded by the government or private schooling funded by the parents/guardians (home schooling is very much in the minority).bobevenson wrote:Please read my immediate reply to the opening post.Philosophy Explorer wrote:How do you connect the dots???bobevenson wrote: As a prophet, I just accept it. But the reason children suffer bullying in school is due 100% to the government.
PhilX
He didn't say it does. He made the point that private schools want your money therefore they will do something about bullies. I'm not sure if that's the case though. Bullies have money too. And I suppose if your whole country is a bully then there's bound to be a trickle-down effect.Philosophy Explorer wrote:No such thing as a free market when it comes to schooling. It's either public schooling funded by the government or private schooling funded by the parents/guardians (home schooling is very much in the minority).bobevenson wrote:Please read my immediate reply to the opening post.Philosophy Explorer wrote:
How do you connect the dots???
PhilX
You still haven't connected the dots. Has the government issued rules or guidelines in regard to bullying? Does the government have courts devoted to the bullying problem?
The government has no puppet strings in connection with bullying. Can you prove your case?
PhilX
Options:Philosophy Explorer wrote:No such thing as a free market when it comes to schooling. It's either public schooling funded by the government or private schooling funded by the parents/guardians (home schooling is very much in the minority).
He implied it. I'm talking about both public and private schooling.vegetariantaxidermy wrote:He didn't say it does. He made the point that private schools want your money therefore they will do something about bullies. I'm not sure if that's the case though. Bullies have money too. And I suppose if your whole country is a bully then there's bound to be a trickle-down effect.Philosophy Explorer wrote:No such thing as a free market when it comes to schooling. It's either public schooling funded by the government or private schooling funded by the parents/guardians (home schooling is very much in the minority).bobevenson wrote: Please read my immediate reply to the opening post.
You still haven't connected the dots. Has the government issued rules or guidelines in regard to bullying? Does the government have courts devoted to the bullying problem?
The government has no puppet strings in connection with bullying. Can you prove your case?
PhilX
Jesus Christ, I'm saying the government shouldn't be involved in education at all; that it should be forced to sell all of its schools, including elementary schools, middle schools, high schools and universities; that it should fire all of its teachers and other educational employees; and that is should abolish its department of education and boards of education. Am I making myself sufficiently clear?Philosophy Explorer wrote:No such thing as a free market when it comes to schooling. It's either public schooling funded by the government or private schooling funded by the parents/guardians (home schooling is very much in the minority).bobevenson wrote:Please read my immediate reply to the opening post.Philosophy Explorer wrote:
How do you connect the dots???
PhilX
You still haven't connected the dots. Has the government issued rules or guidelines in regard to bullying? Does the government have courts devoted to the bullying problem?
The government has no puppet strings in connection with bullying. Can you prove your case?
PhilX
Now you're contradicting yourself. For example you're saying the government shouldn't be involved in education at all; yet, from the other side of your mouth, you're saying that it should fire all of its teachers (how they would do this after selling all of its schools is beyond me?) and on top of this, abolish its department of education and boards of education. This is being involved in education so what weed are you smoking today Bob as you're flunking Philosophy 101?bobevenson wrote:Jesus Christ, I'm saying the government shouldn't be involved in education at all; that it should be forced to sell all of its schools, including elementary schools, middle schools, high schools and universities; that it should fire all of its teachers and other educational employees; and that is should abolish its department of education and boards of education. Am I making myself sufficiently clear?Philosophy Explorer wrote:No such thing as a free market when it comes to schooling. It's either public schooling funded by the government or private schooling funded by the parents/guardians (home schooling is very much in the minority).bobevenson wrote: Please read my immediate reply to the opening post.
You still haven't connected the dots. Has the government issued rules or guidelines in regard to bullying? Does the government have courts devoted to the bullying problem?
The government has no puppet strings in connection with bullying. Can you prove your case?
PhilX
why god does or doesn't? free will cuts both ways...henry quirk wrote:I call myself an atheist, but, honestly, I don't know what I am.
With absolutely no evidence that 'anyone' is there to justify it, I've spent many a desperate moment asking for assistance. Today, for example, my kid is having significant problems at school. Being the odd man out, he's targeted, bullied, and made to feel 'less than' and 'wrong'.
This stuff weighs heavy on me.
Then, this morning, I read about an Ohio eight-year old who hanged himself after being bullied. Like mine, this was a decent kid who just wanted to be accepted; a kid, like mine, with difficulty focusing and controlling impulses.
Which brings me to this...
If God (a self-directing, intelligent, supranatural being responsible for designing, creating and sustaining reality) exists, has the power to intercede in the world, and has the investment (the interest) in the world that some folks claim, why is my ten year suffering? Why did an eight-year find it necessary to kill himself?
I don't expect my kid to be 'saved' or 'spared'. No, in my desperate pleadings I simply ask that his will be bolstered so that he can bear the miseries.
Me, I do all I can with him, and with the school, to ensure he doesn't get any more of a raw deal than he has already.
Now, mebbe God 'is' holdin' up His end of the deal, mebbe God has a plan, mebbe, for mine, things will get better.
But, it would one ballsy son of a bitch to suggest such things to the parents of that eight-year old.
How about vaccines?bobevenson wrote:Please, if the government is totally out of education, it has no public schools, teachers or departments of education, right?
That's a really good point. No one should be forced into physical contact that makes them feel uncomfortable.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Forcing children to hug or shake hands is a form of abuse in itself.