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Re: what is universally true for everybody?

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 7:30 am
by Reflex
osgart wrote:I agree 109% reflex. to seek the divine will and strive for it's attainment.

And what is divine will?
To self-realize.

Re: what is universally true for everybody?

Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 7:50 am
by surreptitious57
surreptitious57 wrote:
Death is merely the cessation of life but the body carries on existing long after. All physical objects experience change
and transformation which is something that occurs at the quantum level even if it cannot actually be directly observed
Although change can be observed at the classical level it originates at the quantum
Since without any change there there would be none at all so it is always subatomic

Re: what is universally true for everybody?

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 11:48 am
by attofishpi
Reflex wrote:
osgart wrote:I agree 109% reflex. to seek the divine will and strive for it's attainment.

And what is divine will?
To self-realize.
What if all you real eyes is God is a result of entropy and quite happily sees man fall to be the soul of a beast?

Re: what is universally true for everybody?

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 5:44 pm
by Reflex
attofishpi wrote:
Reflex wrote:
osgart wrote:I agree 109% reflex. to seek the divine will and strive for it's attainment.

And what is divine will?
To self-realize.
What if all you real eyes is God is a result of entropy and quite happily sees man fall to be the soul of a beast?
You see what you want to see, not what's really there.

Re: what is universally true for everybody?

Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 7:36 pm
by attofishpi
Reflex wrote:
attofishpi wrote:
Reflex wrote: To self-realize.
What if all you real eyes is God is a result of entropy and quite happily sees man fall to be the soul of a beast?
You see what you want to see, not what's really there.
Like bacon and eggs?

Re: what is universally true for everybody?

Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 2:25 am
by Reflex
attofishpi wrote:
Reflex wrote:
attofishpi wrote:
What if all you real eyes is God is a result of entropy and quite happily sees man fall to be the soul of a beast?
You see what you want to see, not what's really there.
Like bacon and eggs?
Like balut and filet mignon.

Re: what is universally true for everybody?

Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 2:50 am
by osgart
the spirit reality may be more like a jungle than a heaven.

with vast intelligent creatures. no law no governance :mrgreen:

Re: what is universally true for everybody?

Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 2:59 am
by Walker
osgart wrote:the spirit reality may be more like a jungle than a heaven.

with vast intelligent creatures. no law no governance :mrgreen:
Does that mean no honor, no decency, no honesty?

Re: what is universally true for everybody?

Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 3:04 am
by osgart
only what you make of it, but honor and decency are still the ultimate truth, why else live if none.

I didn't say there wasn't a heaven but this existence isn't it to me .

I'm sure heaven is a needle in a haystack of endless existences, and it's founded on the heart moreso than the mind.

this existence is too wild and unruly.