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Arising_uk wrote:

Greatest I am wrote:

Arising_uk wrote:In which era?

The only era with first hand information.

Here and now.

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DL

Then I prefer to live in my country where Christians are not the majority.

But where muslims might soon be. Well. England is aiding and abetting the US in the destruction of their countries, so it's really poetic justice.



Is it true that it's illegal to burn a koran in England, but not a bible?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:But where muslims might soon be.

Add together all the non-whites in this country and you don't even get to 13%. Take just the Pakistanis(presumably the main Muslim population) and you just about get 2%. So no, not soon at all.

Is it true that it's illegal to burn a koran in England, but not a bible?

No. But I'm guessing you'd fall foul of incitement laws.

Arising_uk wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:But where muslims might soon be.

Add together all the non-whites in this country and you don't even get to 13%. Take just the Pakistanis(presumably the main Muslim population) and you just about get 2%. So no, not soon at all.

Is it true that it's illegal to burn a koran in England, but not a bible?

No. But I'm guessing you'd fall foul of incitement laws.

I saw the statistics, but it takes very little time to get from 13 to 25 to 45... Look at London. Who would have thought a few years ago that it would now be less than half white English? I'm sure there must be lots of Midsummer Murder villages that are mostly white English (you know, those people like Johns Hurt and Cleese)

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:I saw the statistics, but it takes very little time to get from 13 to 25 to 45... Look at London. Who would have thought a few years ago that it would now be less than half white English?

It's nothing to do with half-white. It's to do with English not being the first language and that is not a surprise as the locals can't afford to live here anymore so those who have the means to leave do. But then they've been doing that for decades.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:I'm sure there must be lots of Midsummer Murder villages that are mostly white English (you know, those people like Johns Hurt and Cleese)

You'll find the bulk of the country is mostly white.

Arising_uk wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:I saw the statistics, but it takes very little time to get from 13 to 25 to 45... Look at London. Who would have thought a few years ago that it would now be less than half white English?

It's nothing to do with half-white. It's to do with English not being the first language and that is not a surprise as the locals can't afford to live here anymore so those who have the means to leave do. But then they've been doing that for decades.

So the nonEnglish Londoners are all rich then?

A bit of mad English humour from a bygone era. And you get to see Hugh Laurie's most excellent legs.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2rfypf

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:So the nonEnglish Londoners are all rich then?

Nope, a fair few of them are super and ultra-rich and have pushed the prices through the roof buying properties as investments but the bulk of the non-English live in their rented properties en-masse just to afford the exorbitant rents. Then there's the City boys and girls English and non-English who earn enough to live here and pay for schooling, say 100k+. Then there's the rest of us just about making do going from hand-to-mouth and moving-out when we can. Oh! And the proles and lumpens who still manage to have council houses or who brought them and didn't move when the rest of them did.

Arising_uk wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:So the nonEnglish Londoners are all rich then?

Nope, a fair few of them are super and ultra-rich and have pushed the prices through the roof buying properties as investments but the bulk of the non-English live in their rented properties en-masse just to afford the exorbitant rents. Then there's the City boys and girls English and non-English who earn enough to live here and pay for schooling, say 100k+. Then there's the rest of us just about making do going from hand-to-mouth and moving-out when we can. Oh! And the proles and lumpens who still manage to have council houses or who brought them and didn't move when the rest of them did.

What are proles and lumpens? I googled them but can't find a proper definition.

all in the name of God people do rottenness and demand conformity.

and that's their sincerity.

God would rather take in total strangers that were upright and knew not God than seek the worship of evil bastards who were faithful to a false standard.

to me it's all a matter of what a person decides to be in their am and has nothing to do with beliefs or convictions as to finding heaven.

heaven will be full of naturalists who were honest and all the devout religious and faithful will find themselves in a hell of their own doing.

What are proles and lumpens? I googled them but can't find a proper definition.

Sorry, shorthand.
Proles - proletariat - the working class.
Lumpen - lumpen proletariat - the unemployed working class.

Bill Wiltrack wrote:Christians are believers in an ideology, as written in their Bible, which allows slavery of Muslim women and men. Christianity allows the sale of child brides to others within their cult. These people want to worship a history that promotes and uses slavery.

These Christian men in this slave holding cult have submitted to Christ and are eager slaves to him thanks to the pleasant heavenly gifts he promises. They believe themselves to be favored by their particular God and hate all those who are not.

Where the fuck are the likes of you getting this crap from? An intelligent Christian is not dogmatised by Judaism. Where did Christ state such things?

While we are on the subject - anyone care to compare the actual teachings of More.ham.mad with those of Christ?

Fear of the spread of Islamic ideology is rational - not a phobia.

Is it not unfair to assign much of the blame for religious violence in the world to Muslims when there have been horrible acts done in the name of God by members of all religions? I think what should be called into question here is the concept of religion itself.

Vendetta wrote:Is it not unfair to assign much of the blame for religious violence in the world to Muslims when there have been horrible acts done in the name of God by members of all religions? I think what should be called into question here is the concept of religion itself.

You must be careful when ascribing the actions of some people, who claim to be of a certain religion, to that religion, especially when those acts are contrary to the teachings of that religion. In those instances the person claiming to be of a certain religion is not acting in accord with the teachings of that religion, and those acts should not be attributed to that religion.

Arising_uk wrote:

What are proles and lumpens? I googled them but can't find a proper definition.

Sorry, shorthand.
Proles - proletariat - the working class.
Lumpen - lumpen proletariat - the unemployed working class.

Oh yes. The delightful class system. Where everything hinges on going to the 'right school' and 'talking proper'.