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Re: A divine God would seek personal responsibility in every life and wouldn't be after submission and worship

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:12 pm
by Harbal
osgart wrote:no I don't. It's wishful thinking. it would be great if there was one. but it ain't so.
How can you be sure?

Re: A divine God would seek personal responsibility in every life and wouldn't be after submission and worship

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:17 pm
by osgart
by considering what the qualities of GOD are. And than comparing God's attributes to the divine standard of total righthood.

Re: A divine God would seek personal responsibility in every life and wouldn't be after submission and worship

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:24 pm
by Harbal
osgart wrote:by considering what the qualities of GOD are.
So you know what the qualities of God are? How do you know?

Re: A divine God would seek personal responsibility in every life and wouldn't be after submission and worship

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:28 pm
by osgart
i surmise what a perfect being would be.

Re: A divine God would seek personal responsibility in every life and wouldn't be after submission and worship

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:42 pm
by Harbal
osgart wrote:i surmise what a perfect being would be.
So if I surmise what a perfect being would be and it is different to your concept, how would we establish who is right?

Re: A divine God would seek personal responsibility in every life and wouldn't be after submission and worship

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:50 pm
by osgart
by it's benefit to society. we use the word God in American government so we should have a definition of its standard

Re: A divine God would seek personal responsibility in every life and wouldn't be after submission and worship

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:57 pm
by Harbal
osgart wrote:by it's benefit to society. we use the word God in American government so we should have a definition of its standard
Different people have different views about what is beneficial to society, don't they? Is it possible to get a unanimous agreement on what sort of God is required?

Re: A divine God would seek personal responsibility in every life and wouldn't be after submission and worship

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:01 pm
by osgart
there are general truths that apply to everybody. past that is total freedom to see things as one sees fit themselves.

Re: A divine God would seek personal responsibility in every life and wouldn't be after submission and worship

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:03 pm
by osgart
God is a term that lacks definition. yet we hold everybody accountable to God. so we should try to define a useful meaning to it

Re: A divine God would seek personal responsibility in every life and wouldn't be after submission and worship

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:06 pm
by Harbal
osgart wrote:God is a term that lacks definition. yet we hold everybody accountable to God. so we should try to define a useful meaning to it
Is it worth going to the bother if, after you've defined it, you are not going to believe in it?

Re: A divine God would seek personal responsibility in every life and wouldn't be after submission and worship

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:31 pm
by osgart
to find the common meaning of it is worthwhile. God in the sense of a unifying principle that can be agreed upon .

Re: A divine God would seek personal responsibility in every life and wouldn't be after submission and worship

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:35 pm
by Harbal
osgart wrote:to find the common meaning of it is worthwhile. God in the sense of a unifying principle that can be agreed upon .
I admire your enthusiasm, I don't think I could be bothered to make the effort.

Re: A divine God would seek personal responsibility in every life and wouldn't be after submission and worship

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:40 pm
by osgart
perhaps it is a bit time consuming. there's only so many hours in a day. Seeing that there are many Americans who would simply shrug it off. Much of life is circumstance and plight. and people often fall into a grind of going through the motions everyday.

thanks for the compliment.

Re: A divine God would seek personal responsibility in every life and wouldn't be after submission and worship

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:42 pm
by osgart
I come in contact with many Christians everyday

Re: A divine God would seek personal responsibility in every life and wouldn't be after submission and worship

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:47 pm
by Harbal
osgart wrote:
thanks for the compliment.
You're welcome.