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Should we respect and tolerate a religion that denies us the rights and play by the same rules that they enjoy?

No. Most Muslims who live and work in the UK are eminently respectable and hard working and pay their taxes and despise terrorism as much or more than atheists. Islam is I believe and I wish it were not so, behind the times regarding certain archaic practices such as fear of dogs and wearing of prescribed clothing styles. For good reason people may wear what they like as long as they aren't ostentatious about their religious symbols in the professional setting. I say this, but if I saw my GP praying in the humble Muslim prayer position in the work place I would feel reassured. Isis terrorists and other religious and political fanatics are anything but humble! I like prayer and praying.

Belinda wrote:... Isis terrorists and other religious and political fanatics are anything but humble! I like prayer and praying.

And yet they pray exactly like the doctor every day. I'd have thought their prayer method is not to be humble to others but to be humble before their 'God'.

Belinda wrote:

Should we respect and tolerate a religion that denies us the rights and play by the same rules that they enjoy?

No. Most Muslims who live and work in the UK are eminently respectable and hard working and pay their taxes and despise terrorism as much or more than atheists. Islam is I believe and I wish it were not so, behind the times regarding certain archaic practices such as fear of dogs and wearing of prescribed clothing styles. For good reason people may wear what they like as long as they aren't ostentatious about their religious symbols in the professional setting. I say this, but if I saw my GP praying in the humble Muslim prayer position in the work place I would feel reassured. Isis terrorists and other religious and political fanatics are anything but humble! I like prayer and praying.

I see that you have not watched much in the way of news about Muslims coming out of the U.K..

Shall I link you to information on how Muslims are protesting to be able to use Sharia law and how they are creating no-go zones all over the U.K..

Regards
DL

Arising_uk wrote:

Belinda wrote:... Isis terrorists and other religious and political fanatics are anything but humble! I like prayer and praying.

And yet they pray exactly like the doctor every day. I'd have thought their prayer method is not to be humble to others but to be humble before their 'God'.

Exactly.

Jesus said to closet yourself away to pray.

Compare that to the mass praying that Muslims better be seen doing if the do not want to be killed as apostates.

Nothing quite like a religion that grows itself by the sword instead of good deeds.

Regards
DL

Greatest I am wrote:...

I see that you have not watched much in the way of news about Muslims coming out of the U.K..

Shall I link you to information on how Muslims are protesting to be able to use Sharia law and how they are creating no-go zones all over the U.K..

You're reading the Daily Mail too much.

If Muslims wish to use their religious rules for certain matters what's to stop them? After all the Jews use their 'courts'.

The Muslims' prayer is beautiful to see. There is no adequate reason to think that Muslims pray for anything other than the mercy and peace of Allah. Terrorists don't pray to Allah the god of mercy.

Arising_uk wrote:

Greatest I am wrote:...

I see that you have not watched much in the way of news about Muslims coming out of the U.K..

Shall I link you to information on how Muslims are protesting to be able to use Sharia law and how they are creating no-go zones all over the U.K..

You're reading the Daily Mail too much.

If Muslims wish to use their religious rules for certain matters what's to stop them? After all the Jews use their 'courts'.

Yes, were all souls are equal before the law. Not like Islam where women are second class and unequal.

Regards
DL

Belinda wrote:The Muslims' prayer is beautiful to see. There is no adequate reason to think that Muslims pray for anything other than the mercy and peace of Allah. Terrorists don't pray to Allah the god of mercy.

No need to when they have a God of war on their side.

Regards
DL

No need to when they have a God of war on their side.

But Allah is a god of peace.

Comes down to this, for me: I don't give a flip what the other guy does or thinks 'till he decides that I should be doin' and thinkin' the same as him.

There's a remedy for such folks, one people shy away from, but a direct, clear remedy nonetheless (and it ain't diplomacy).

Have you a gun permit Henry?

Belinda wrote:

No need to when they have a God of war on their side.

But Allah is a god of peace.

So they say, but if what Islam produces is peace then -----

Regards
DL

henry quirk wrote:Comes down to this, for me: I don't give a flip what the other guy does or thinks 'till he decides that I should be doin' and thinkin' the same as him.

There's a remedy for such folks, one people shy away from, but a direct, clear remedy nonetheless (and it ain't diplomacy).

Yuk.

So you would ignore your slave owning neighbor as long as he did not bother you. Ok.

Nothing quite like doing unto others.

Regards
DL

In my state, Louisiana, no permits are required for ownership and use.

...and...

I live in America where there is no formal slavery (informal is another mattter).

But let's take the question at face value: would I sit quietly while my neighbor owns slaves?

If the slave were a willing participant (and such things do happen) I'd write the whole bunch off as psychos and mind my own business. If the slave were unwilling, I'd be obligied to rebalance the relationship, that is: get the owner to release his property (to mind his own business and keep his hands to himself).

Change the scenario up a bit: can I sit quietly while folks are enslaved elsewhere?

Absolutely I can. I'm a finite resource...I can't save the world...I can, howver, police my little corner of it....let folks 'elsewhere' do the same.

Henry Quirk wrote:

In my state, Louisiana, no permits are required for ownership and use.

Would you be able to fully justify this liberty ?