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For once I must fully agree with the bird.Terrapin Station wrote:What time period is that averaging data for?
I'm just wondering how it can only be two per year when it was almost 3,000 just on one day in 2001, there were just 49 on one day a couple months ago, etc.
I'm not sure how to answer that because it seems so obvious to me. If that's what they're more concerned with, what they're focused on, then it's relevant to their concerns. I don't know how we'd dispute that.Hobbes' Choice wrote:Why do you think that?Terrapin Station wrote:It's relevant for the people who are more concerned with others who might intend to hurt them than they are with accidents.Hobbes' Choice wrote:
The intention is not relevant, as I can trust you can see here.
You're thinking that Christians are akin to the KKK, though?vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Very difficult to find a site that isn't biased and agenda-driven, but it's obvious anyway. Just think about all the attacks on abortion clinics. Not that I would defend islam. It's a revolting ideology, but facts are facts. And then of course there is the fact that the entire US military is just a bunch of terrorists (mostly kristian).Hobbes' Choice wrote:Do you have any numbers on that?vegetariantaxidermy wrote:By far the greatest number of 'terrorist' attacks in the US are committed by KKKristians.
Well they certainly arent' christians, because the word implies that they follow the teachings of the NT character 'Christ'. In fact, the KKK are themselves KKKristians. Do you have a problem with that? After all, it's all 'relative'.Terrapin Station wrote:You're thinking that Christians are akin to the KKK, though?
Okay, but the not-really-Christians that you're referring to who aren't actually in the KKK. You're just assuming they have racist views?vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Well they certainly arent' christians, because the word implies that they follow the teachings of the NT character 'Christ'. In fact, the KKK are themselves KKKristians. Do you have a problem with that? After all, it's all 'relative'.Terrapin Station wrote:You're thinking that Christians are akin to the KKK, though?
Not exactly an assumption. There's plenty of evidence to support it.Terrapin Station wrote:Okay, but the not-really-Christians that you're referring to who aren't actually in the KKK. You're just assuming they have racist views?vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Well they certainly arent' christians, because the word implies that they follow the teachings of the NT character 'Christ'. In fact, the KKK are themselves KKKristians. Do you have a problem with that? After all, it's all 'relative'.Terrapin Station wrote:You're thinking that Christians are akin to the KKK, though?
Such as?vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Not exactly an assumption. There's plenty of evidence to support it.Terrapin Station wrote:Okay, but the not-really-Christians that you're referring to who aren't actually in the KKK. You're just assuming they have racist views?vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Well they certainly arent' christians, because the word implies that they follow the teachings of the NT character 'Christ'. In fact, the KKK are themselves KKKristians. Do you have a problem with that? After all, it's all 'relative'.
What's evidence to a 'relativist'?Terrapin Station wrote:Such as?vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Not exactly an assumption. There's plenty of evidence to support it.Terrapin Station wrote:Okay, but the not-really-Christians that you're referring to who aren't actually in the KKK. You're just assuming they have racist views?
Do you have to have everything spelt out? No, I don't think christians are akin to the KKK. I think kristians are.Terrapin Station wrote:You're thinking that Christians are akin to the KKK, though?
Step One: there is a difference between whether it is relevant, or that they think it is relevant.Terrapin Station wrote:I'm not sure how to answer that because it seems so obvious to me. If that's what they're more concerned with, what they're focused on, then it's relevant to their concerns. I don't know how we'd dispute that.Hobbes' Choice wrote:Why do you think that?Terrapin Station wrote:It's relevant for the people who are more concerned with others who might intend to hurt them than they are with accidents.
In exactly the same why that Islam is akin to Islamic terrorists.Terrapin Station wrote:You're thinking that Christians are akin to the KKK, though?vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Very difficult to find a site that isn't biased and agenda-driven, but it's obvious anyway. Just think about all the attacks on abortion clinics. Not that I would defend islam. It's a revolting ideology, but facts are facts. And then of course there is the fact that the entire US military is just a bunch of terrorists (mostly kristian).Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Do you have any numbers on that?
For this scenario, one example of evidence would be one of the people you're referring to saying something racist--maybe online somplace that they were active, or in an interview with someone, or whatever.vegetariantaxidermy wrote:What's evidence to a 'relativist'?Terrapin Station wrote:Such as?vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Not exactly an assumption. There's plenty of evidence to support it.
I didn't say that something is relevant because someone thinks it's relevant. I said that if S is concerned with x, then x is relevant to S's concerns. That doesn't in any way hinge on S thinking that x is relevant.Hobbes' Choice wrote:Step One: there is a difference between whether it is relevant, or that they think it is relevant.
What does that have to do with the distinction between intention and accident or whether something is relevant to their concerns?Step Two: to what degree is their assessment of their risk nothing to do with actual likelihood, or due to a gut reaction fed by the media and the industrial/military complex?
Now if we could just get vegetariantaxidermy to realize that.Hobbes' Choice wrote:In exactly the same why that Islam is akin to Islamic terrorists.Terrapin Station wrote:You're thinking that Christians are akin to the KKK, though?vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Very difficult to find a site that isn't biased and agenda-driven, but it's obvious anyway. Just think about all the attacks on abortion clinics. Not that I would defend islam. It's a revolting ideology, but facts are facts. And then of course there is the fact that the entire US military is just a bunch of terrorists (mostly kristian).
You clearly have reading comprehension problems.Terrapin Station wrote:Now if we could just get vegetariantaxidermy to realize that.