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Re: God is a Concept...

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:34 am
by Walker
Bill Wiltrack wrote:.



Benwood, West Virginia. The leader of the group of us scattered throughout 3 or 4 states was Richard Rose.





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Did you know Richard Rose?

Re: God is a Concept...

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:09 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Re: God is a Concept...

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:19 pm
by Walker
I never met him, but I would have liked to.

I like the story of how he built his house with brick and cement instead of brick and mortar, which made life difficult for the bulldozer that came to destroy it. It tipped over instead of breaking.

Re: God is a Concept...

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:42 pm
by Belinda
Bill Willtrack wrote:
I guess, in this arena, I consider the PhilosophyNow Forums as my own personal review board? If that is what you mean
It's a good idea, Bill, but it's not what I meant to refer to as a network of professionals. I referred to the people who formulated the creed or creeds that you believe. I am very wary of all creeds. Uncertainty is great.

Re: God is a Concept...

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:50 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Not sure if even now I am understanding you correctly but...


I alone believe in the inherent good of Organized Labor.



Organized Labor is my religion.


Current, legally recognized Agreement Books are my Bible, if you will.



Again, if that is what you mean.





Oh, & BTW NO ONE else on earth believes in the way that I do...so their really isn't much of a network of professionals that support my views.







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Re: God is a Concept...

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:43 am
by Walker
Bill Wiltrack wrote:.





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Didn't Richard Rose say that one should never lie?
That truth-telling all the time is a most powerful act?

Maybe that was someone else.

Re: God is a Concept...

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:53 am
by Belinda
Bill Wiltrack wrote:.




Not sure if even now I am understanding you correctly but...


I alone believe in the inherent good of Organized Labor.



Organized Labor is my religion.


Current, legally recognized Agreement Books are my Bible, if you will.



Again, if that is what you mean.





Oh, & BTW NO ONE else on earth believes in the way that I do...so their really isn't much of a network of professionals that support my views.


So, Bill, your word order in " I alone believe in the good of Organized Labor" is deliberate. I don't understand you in this, because I myself am a socialist who supports old fashioned trade unionism, that is as long as there is a sturdy bargaining mechanism in place so that workers and employers can agree to arbitration or compromise.

What are "legally recognized Agreement Books"? Would you supply examples ?

I would have thought that any book which was not illegal was legally recognised.






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Re: God is a Concept...

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:07 pm
by Greta
I think God is a potential, a potential we seem to instinctively sense as the possibilities of what life might become over many billions of years - if not seeded by the Earth, then somewhere else in the distant future. The idea behind the de Chardin's Omega Point makes sense in that a sufficiently advanced entity may well seem like God to us, and there's plenty of time left for new forms to emerge that we cannot imagine.

Re: God is a Concept...

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:21 pm
by attofishpi
Greta wrote:I think God is a potential, a potential we seem to instinctively sense as the possibilities of what life might become over many billions of years - if not seeded by the Earth, then somewhere else in the distant future. The idea behind the de Chardin's Omega Point makes sense in that a sufficiently advanced entity may well seem like God to us, and there's plenty of time left for new forms to emerge that we cannot imagine.
Absolutely - and the technological singularity is just around the corner, apparently.

Re: God is a Concept...

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:30 pm
by Belinda
Greta wrote:I think God is a potential, a potential we seem to instinctively sense as the possibilities of what life might become over many billions of years - if not seeded by the Earth, then somewhere else in the distant future. The idea behind the de Chardin's Omega Point makes sense in that a sufficiently advanced entity may well seem like God to us, and there's plenty of time left for new forms to emerge that we cannot imagine.
My favourite god is like Greta's but less cosmic and more psychological. :)

Re: God is a Concept...

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:38 pm
by attofishpi
Belinda wrote:My favourite god is like Greta's but less cosmic and more psychological. :)
Sure, from my experience of this entity i'm certain it is within your psyche.

Re: God is a Concept...

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:01 pm
by Greta
Greta wrote:I think God is a potential, a potential we seem to instinctively sense as the possibilities of what life might become over many billions of years - if not seeded by the Earth, then somewhere else in the distant future. The idea behind the de Chardin's Omega Point makes sense in that a sufficiently advanced entity may well seem like God to us, and there's plenty of time left for new forms to emerge that we cannot imagine.
attofishpi wrote:Absolutely - and the technological singularity is just around the corner, apparently.
If we do create genuinely intelligent machines, I wonder where their evolution might take them.
Belinda wrote:My favourite god is like Greta's but less cosmic and more psychological. :)
I'm keen on the Sun, Earth and Moon as deities. At least they do actual work to earn their reverence, unlike some of the metaphysical freeloaders out there :)

Re: God is a Concept...

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:09 pm
by attofishpi
Greta wrote:
attofishpi wrote:Absolutely - and the technological singularity is just around the corner, apparently.
If we do create genuinely intelligent machines, I wonder where their evolution might take them.
mmm...i doubt Ikea.

Re: God is a Concept...

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:34 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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By legally recognized agreement book I mean, an agreement book that is recognized and enforceable by the country of operation legal system.

A book that legitimately represents the owner & managing body of a signatory company and negotiating body on the side of the workers that is legally recognized as being able to represent the majority of workers of a signatory company.

Often times an owner will be a member of a contractors' association and workers will be represented by an entity such as the AFL-CIO.



A union agreement book is one that legally represents and is recognized by both the signatory owner and a legitimate representative of the workers best interests.



Organized Labor is my religion.








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Re: God is a Concept...

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:13 pm
by Belinda
Greta wrote:
I'm keen on the Sun, Earth and Moon as deities. At least they do actual work to earn their reverence, unlike some of the metaphysical freeloaders out there :)
I like too like those deities. I am especially keen on the constellation of Orion who is very beautiful. Do you see Orion in Australia? Maybe he is hemispherically ontical.

I understand that one has to be invited to join a coven, unlike most philosophy forums.