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Re: Government is your most dangerous friend...
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:12 am
by Hobbes' Choice
Greta wrote:vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Greta wrote:
A recent study suggests that altruism is the quality that women find most attractive in a man, humour second. Wealth and confidence don't hurt either.
I find that hard to believe. I would have put humour first.
It was in the news fairly recently. Intresting:
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/women ... ?r=US&IR=T
In my experience "Business Insider" is not a reliable or worthy source. Its to sort of stuff that PhilX cites all the time.
The link reveals.
In Study 1, participants who scored higher on a self-report altruism measure reported they were more desirable to the opposite sex, as well as reported having more sex partners, more casual sex partners, and having sex more often within relationships. Sex moderated some of these relationships, such that altruism mattered more for men's number of lifetime and casual sex partners. In Study 2, participants who were willing to donate potential monetary winnings (in a modified dictator dilemma) reported having more lifetime sex partners, more casual sex partners, and more sex partners over the past year
No reference at all to sense of humour!! The BI article fallaciously asserts that altruism is a greater predictor for sexual attraction than sense of humour.
Re: Government is your most dangerous friend...
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:06 am
by Greta
Hobbes' Choice wrote:Greta wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:We all know you are lonely.
"But what else can ugly people do to get laid?" as Jackie Mason used to ask.
A recent study suggests that altruism is the quality that women find most attractive in a man, humour second. Wealth and confidence don't hurt either.
"A recent study"? Urrumph!
There's a whole lot missing in what you say here. How did the study define altruism, and what degree of altruism is necessary to overcome what degree of ugliness.
Can you cite?
There's a link posted above, which provided a link this:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 12208/full
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 141642.htm
Whatever, maybe it's a spin. I don't much mind. Still, plenty of women I've known preferred their mates not to be rogues, the latter group apparently having more one nighters.
Re: Government is your most dangerous friend...
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:18 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
At a glance that 'study' appears to have more holes than something that's very holey.
Re: Government is your most dangerous friend...
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:23 am
by Philosophy Explorer
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
In my experience "Business Insider" is not a reliable or worthy source. Its to sort of stuff that PhilX cites all the time.
The link reveals.
In Study 1, participants who scored higher on a self-report altruism measure reported they were more desirable to the opposite sex, as well as reported having more sex partners, more casual sex partners, and having sex more often within relationships. Sex moderated some of these relationships, such that altruism mattered more for men's number of lifetime and casual sex partners. In Study 2, participants who were willing to donate potential monetary winnings (in a modified dictator dilemma) reported having more lifetime sex partners, more casual sex partners, and more sex partners over the past year
No reference at all to sense of humour!! The BI article fallaciously asserts that altruism is a greater predictor for sexual attraction than sense of humour.
"No reference at all to sense of humor!!" Learn how to read jackass. I quote from the article:
"All of this is not to say other traits don’t matter. Humour is also important to women selecting a mate, researchers have found. It makes women assume a man is more intelligent.
A sense of humour is a good indicator of sexual activity, too. In one study, men who women rated as funnier reported having more sex with more partners.
For building long-term relationships, though, researchers find over and over again that altruism is a crucial and highly desirable trait.
Psychologists have yet to pit humour head-to-head against altruism. It’s also important to keep in mind that many of these studies are small, and that people often behave differently in real life than they do in a lab setting, or when responding to a survey. Especially when reporting positive experiences like charity work or sex, men may be more likely to overestimate how much they actually do those things. And due to the way these kinds of studies are designed, they can’t say conclusively that it’s altruism specifically that’s attractive; it might be other traits associated with altruism, or that men attractive for other reasons might also happen to be altruistic.
But the large number of studies and the consistent findings in favour of altruism are building a pretty solid case that there are some side benefits to doing good deeds. No matter what, if you’re a man seeking a woman — especially for a long-term partnership — helping others can’t hurt."
So jackass, how many more words are you going to put into BI's mouth? You certainly seem to have a touch towards twisting the meaning of words around to make it seem like someone has said something which isn't the truth. How about going back to Philosophy Forum, Hog's Choice, and enlighten them with your foolishness? I would tell you to go back to Online Philosophy Club and do the same over there except I know Scott booted your ass clean out of that website.
PhilX
Re: Government is your most dangerous friend...
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:06 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Philosophy Explorer wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:
In my experience "Business Insider" is not a reliable or worthy source. Its to sort of stuff that PhilX cites all the time.
The link reveals.
In Study 1, participants who scored higher on a self-report altruism measure reported they were more desirable to the opposite sex, as well as reported having more sex partners, more casual sex partners, and having sex more often within relationships. Sex moderated some of these relationships, such that altruism mattered more for men's number of lifetime and casual sex partners. In Study 2, participants who were willing to donate potential monetary winnings (in a modified dictator dilemma) reported having more lifetime sex partners, more casual sex partners, and more sex partners over the past year
No reference at all to sense of humour!! The BI article fallaciously asserts that altruism is a greater predictor for sexual attraction than sense of humour.
"No reference at all to sense of humor!!" Learn how to read jackass. I quote from the article:
"All of this is not to say other traits don’t matter. Humour is also important to women selecting a mate, researchers have found. It makes women assume a man is more intelligent.
PhilX
You are just making a fool of yourself. Business Insider was pretending to get that FROM real studies, yet those studies were not a comparison between humour and altruism.
You really need to learn how to read.
Re: Government is your most dangerous friend...
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:15 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Hobbes' Choice wrote:Philosophy Explorer wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:
In my experience "Business Insider" is not a reliable or worthy source. Its to sort of stuff that PhilX cites all the time.
The link reveals.
In Study 1, participants who scored higher on a self-report altruism measure reported they were more desirable to the opposite sex, as well as reported having more sex partners, more casual sex partners, and having sex more often within relationships. Sex moderated some of these relationships, such that altruism mattered more for men's number of lifetime and casual sex partners. In Study 2, participants who were willing to donate potential monetary winnings (in a modified dictator dilemma) reported having more lifetime sex partners, more casual sex partners, and more sex partners over the past year
No reference at all to sense of humour!! The BI article fallaciously asserts that altruism is a greater predictor for sexual attraction than sense of humour.
"No reference at all to sense of humor!!" Learn how to read jackass. I quote from the article:
"All of this is not to say other traits don’t matter. Humour is also important to women selecting a mate, researchers have found. It makes women assume a man is more intelligent.
PhilX
You are just making a fool of yourself. Business Insider was pretending to get that FROM real studies, yet those studies were not a comparison between humour and altruism.
You really need to learn how to read.
I've read what you said jackass which is sufficient for me.
BI wasn't pretending fool. Better go back to school and learn how to read.
PhilX
Re: Government is your most dangerous friend...
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:22 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Philosophy Explorer wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:Philosophy Explorer wrote:
"No reference at all to sense of humor!!" Learn how to read jackass. I quote from the article:
"All of this is not to say other traits don’t matter. Humour is also important to women selecting a mate, researchers have found. It makes women assume a man is more intelligent.
PhilX
You are just making a fool of yourself. Business Insider was pretending to get that FROM real studies, yet those studies were not a comparison between humour and altruism.
You really need to learn how to read.
I've read what you said jackass which is sufficient for me.
BI wasn't pretending fool. Better go back to school and learn how to read.
PhilX
Sadly a second rate understanding, and a third rate comprehension is sufficient for you as we have seen again and again.
I suggest you review the thread and react to what I actually said; but I guess you'd still not get it.
Re: Government is your most dangerous friend...
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:32 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Hobbes' Choice wrote:Philosophy Explorer wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:
You are just making a fool of yourself. Business Insider was pretending to get that FROM real studies, yet those studies were not a comparison between humour and altruism.
You really need to learn how to read.
I've read what you said jackass which is sufficient for me.
BI wasn't pretending fool. Better go back to school and learn how to read.
PhilX
Sadly a second rate understanding, and a third rate comprehension is sufficient for you as we have seen again and again.
I suggest you review the thread and react to what I actually said; but I guess you'd still not get it.
What's there to get, besides your being a jackass?
PhilX
Re: Government is your most dangerous friend...
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:43 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Philosophy Explorer wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:Philosophy Explorer wrote:
I've read what you said jackass which is sufficient for me.
BI wasn't pretending fool. Better go back to school and learn how to read.
PhilX
Sadly a second rate understanding, and a third rate comprehension is sufficient for you as we have seen again and again.
I suggest you review the thread and react to what I actually said; but I guess you'd still not get it.
What's there to get, besides your being a jackass?
PhilX
Take the advice!
I don't think I can explain you mistake more simply. If you don't get it, you don't get it. You'll just have to accept that you are not as smart as you think and your inclination to attack me, rather than try to understand what is going on has got the better of you.
DOn't worry though. I'm not upset by your outbursts. That would be like blaming a sheep for bleating.
Re: Government is your most dangerous friend...
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:50 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Hobbes' Choice wrote:Philosophy Explorer wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Sadly a second rate understanding, and a third rate comprehension is sufficient for you as we have seen again and again.
I suggest you review the thread and react to what I actually said; but I guess you'd still not get it.
What's there to get, besides your being a jackass?
PhilX
Take the advice!
I don't think I can explain you mistake more simply. If you don't get it, you don't get it. You'll just have to accept that you are not as smart as you think and your inclination to attack me, rather than try to understand what is going on has got the better of you.
DOn't worry though. I'm not upset by your outbursts. That would be like blaming a sheep for bleating.
Coming from a jackass like you, I can safely disregard.
PhilX
Re: Government is your most dangerous friend...
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:52 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
PhilX
Re: Government is your most dangerous friend...
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:57 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Hobbes' Choice wrote:Philosophy Explorer wrote:
PhilX
What's the matter Hog's Choice? Can't spell your name?
PhilX
Re: Government is your most dangerous friend...
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:54 pm
by Terrapin Station
Arising_uk wrote:If prostitutes rule what are pimps? Apart from scum that is.
Yeah, pimps are superfluous agents/managers. Prostitutes can fulfill those functions themselves. Pimping is a good gig, though, if you can get it.
Re: Government is your most dangerous friend...
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:59 pm
by Terrapin Station
With the study being talked about, one (of many possible) more accurate statement would be this:
Men who self-report as helping others/being altruistic also self-report as having more sex, and with more partners.
Re: Government is your most dangerous friend...
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 4:03 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Terrapin Station wrote:With the study being talked about, one (of many possible) more accurate statement would be this:
Men who self-report as helping others/being altruistic also self-report as having more sex, and with more partners.
Indeed. Quite a tenuous causal link!!!
People who self report as being smart, tend to think that
other people get the wrong end of the stick.
