God created Evil

[bahman]

I cannot agree with the definition of evil. By your definition anyone suffering and confused would be evil.

What is the problem with that definition?

That is true that anyone in state of suffering and confusion is subjected to Evil.

Yeah but they are subjected to evil. They are not evil. So evil would be someone who instilled the state of suffering and confusion.

Evil person can also be defined as a being who cause suffering and confusion. So everything is well defined.

[sthitapragya]

What is the problem with that definition?

That is true that anyone in state of suffering and confusion is subjected to Evil.

Yeah but they are subjected to evil. They are not evil. So evil would be someone who instilled the state of suffering and confusion.

Evil person can also be defined as a being who cause suffering and confusion. So everything is well defined.

So a person creates evil then because a person causes another to be confused and suffer. In that case, God did not create evil but the person does.

[bahman]

Yeah but they are subjected to evil. They are not evil. So evil would be someone who instilled the state of suffering and confusion.

Evil person can also be defined as a being who cause suffering and confusion. So everything is well defined.

So a person creates evil then because a person causes another to be confused and suffer. In that case, God did not create evil but the person does.

So you need to show that something is wrong with OP.

God of course created Evil since he was cognitively open to act of creation. He knew very well what would happen by act of creation.

[Dontaskme]

God of course created Evil since he was cognitively open to act of creation. He knew very well what would happen by act of creation.

bahman...your statement is so wrong and misleading ... lets turn this around to the main focal point of reference...

Can YOU know what's going to happen next? ....there is only you here did you know that?

You might say there are others AS WELL... which is true, but without you there is no other...think about that?

This is how reality works...

Now, I'm a really nice person so I am happy to discuss with you the things I've said if you want to.??

[bahman]

God of course created Evil since he was cognitively open to act of creation. He knew very well what would happen by act of creation.

bahman...your statement is so wrong and misleading ... lets turn this around to the main focal point of reference...

Can YOU know what's going to happen next? ....there is only you here did you know that?

You might say there are others AS WELL... which is true, but without you there is no other...think about that?

This is how reality works...

Now, I'm a really nice person so I am happy to discuss with you the things I've said if you want to.??

God for example knows that a person does Evil in a given situation. He still persist to create universe. Hence he create Evil since there would be no Evil without creation. Couldn't God create a universe without Evil? Of course he could since He is omnipotent and omniscient.

[Dontaskme]

Talking about others bahman ...we only see our own reflection in others. We are all mirrors to each other. We cannot know the mind of another or meet up, or touch their mind simply because they are not separate from your mind, they are not over there, while you are over here...over there is really here ..and here is the only place there is, over there is only ever an appearance of there happening here.

Do you see this?

[Dontaskme]

God for example knows that a person does Evil in a given situation. He still persist to create universe. Hence he create Evil since there would be no Evil without creation. Couldn't God create a universe without Evil? Of course he could since He is omnipotent and omniscient.

An idea is the only creation bahman.

When an idea arises, something is created in the exact same moment.

No one creates evil except the belief in the concept itself.

A concept is just an idea believed.

Ideas arise in YOU....YOU are the zero point in which all ideas arise, where they happen. They do not happen out there separate from you.

When you are asleep at night and you go into deep dreamless sleep...where are you, where is evil, where is the world?

It's all your doing....and at the same time not you, because you are an idea too.

I know people do not want to believe this...but it's the truth...sages have known it for centuries.

No one sees out of their eyes....there is only one seer...seeing through every creature on earth... everything is seeing with the same seeing faculty unless of course there is a fault with the apparatus faculty that allows the seerless seeing to pass through...you can't seer the seer because you are it.

Everything is you...if you don't like evil, don't create it in your life.

If you then say to yourself I am free of evil...but I know evil exists in the world out-there....then that's still only because you are thinking about it.

You have no idea evil exists outside of you, have you ever stepped outside of YOU?

Evil is therefore your idea...your creation.

The world out-there...is just a mirror of you.

I have a lot of time for people who genuinely want to understand this bahman...so please feel free to ask any question you like. I tend to prefer to talk to the topic content rather than the individual person.

[sthitapragya]

Evil person can also be defined as a being who cause suffering and confusion. So everything is well defined.

So a person creates evil then because a person causes another to be confused and suffer. In that case, God did not create evil but the person does.

So you need to show that something is wrong with OP.

God of course created Evil since he was cognitively open to act of creation. He knew very well what would happen by act of creation.

I just did. God created people. People did acts which caused evil to be created. God of course knew that this would happen. But he did not create evil. Otherwise, everyone would be evil.

[Dalek Prime]

Just for the sake of argument, let's assume God created evil: 'God, you're to blame for this!' Great, I feel better myself, having assigned blame. What can we do with this revelation?

[bahman]

So a person creates evil then because a person causes another to be confused and suffer. In that case, God did not create evil but the person does.

So you need to show that something is wrong with OP.

God of course created Evil since he was cognitively open to act of creation. He knew very well what would happen by act of creation.

I just did. God created people. People did acts which caused evil to be created. God of course knew that this would happen. But he did not create evil. Otherwise, everyone would be evil.

Why you think that everyone would be Evil? God created universe and creation is Good and Evil meaning that some people are Evil and some are God. God however responsible for Evil because he could create a universe which can only be Good.

[sthitapragya]

So you need to show that something is wrong with OP.

God of course created Evil since he was cognitively open to act of creation. He knew very well what would happen by act of creation.

I just did. God created people. People did acts which caused evil to be created. God of course knew that this would happen. But he did not create evil. Otherwise, everyone would be evil.

Why you think that everyone would be Evil? God created universe and creation is Good and Evil meaning that some people are Evil and some are God. God however responsible for Evil because he could create a universe which can only be Good.

There is a difference between creating something and being responsible for something.

[bahman]

Just for the sake of argument, let's assume God created evil: 'God, you're to blame for this!' Great, I feel better myself, having assigned blame. What can we do with this revelation?

This means that God is not Good but neutral when it comes to Good and Evil. This means that God is responsible for all our suffering. He also responsible for confusion in creation.

[bahman]

I just did. God created people. People did acts which caused evil to be created. God of course knew that this would happen. But he did not create evil. Otherwise, everyone would be evil.

Why you think that everyone would be Evil? God created universe and creation is Good and Evil meaning that some people are Evil and some are God. God however responsible for Evil because he could create a universe which can only be Good.

There is a difference between creating something and being responsible for something.

I know that difference. God in fact create Good and Evil universe because He knew that Good and Evil would happen. Who is responsible for Evil? God again. Are we responsible for Evil? No, because each of us has certain potential to resist Evil.

[Dalek Prime]

Just for the sake of argument, let's assume God created evil: 'God, you're to blame for this!' Great, I feel better myself, having assigned blame. What can we do with this revelation?

This means that God is not Good but neutral when it comes to Good and Evil. This means that God is responsible for all our suffering. He also responsible for confusion in creation.

Yes, that's dystheism, which I accept as a possibility. And all we can do is rant at God, to no avail. Well, we can also stop giving him new people to torture, but that's another story.

[Dalek Prime]

I just did. God created people. People did acts which caused evil to be created. God of course knew that this would happen. But he did not create evil. Otherwise, everyone would be evil.

Why you think that everyone would be Evil? God created universe and creation is Good and Evil meaning that some people are Evil and some are God. God however responsible for Evil because he could create a universe which can only be Good.

There is a difference between creating something and being responsible for something.

No there isn't! You create a life, you are absolutely and directly responsible for it!