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That was beautiful, Surreptitious.

Dalek... it may really help you to get some "activated charcoal" capsules and take those. They very quickly absorb poison and any kind of stomach or digestion upsets. Sorry I didn't think of it sooner... leaving you to suffer on as you have. Food poisoning is terrible. I hope you feel better soon.

thedoc wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:

Dalek Prime wrote: This is where I came in doc. Perhaps further back on this thread. I'm almost too weak.from food poisoning to check. Sorry.

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Still suffering from it? You need lots of water to avoid dehydration.

I'm not a medical doctor, but I would think that lots of water would help to flush the poison out of your system.

I'm okay. Eating and drinking what I can. It's resolving slowly, but doing so. Thanks, both of you.

Dalek Prime wrote:

thedoc wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Still suffering from it? You need lots of water to avoid dehydration.

I'm not a medical doctor, but I would think that lots of water would help to flush the poison out of your system.

I'm okay. Eating and drinking what I can. It's resolving slowly, but doing so. Thanks, both of you.

There you are. Glad you are feeling better.

Lacewing wrote:That was beautiful, Surreptitious.

Dalek... it may really help you to get some "activated charcoal" capsules and take those. They very quickly absorb poison and any kind of stomach or digestion upsets. Sorry I didn't think of it sooner... leaving you to suffer on as you have. Food poisoning is terrible. I hope you feel better soon.

Hey, no worries, and thank you Lacewing. Ill be okay. I will think of the activated charcoal next time, if it ever happens again. Actually, is there any in pepto bismol? Because certain 'items' are coming out black, if you'll pardon my saying. And if it's not in there, I had best see a doctor again lol.

I just want to go for a bike ride, and enjoy a coffee in the park. Soon soon.

Thanks again folks. I'll be fine. Stay well.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:

Dalek Prime wrote:

thedoc wrote:
I'm not a medical doctor, but I would think that lots of water would help to flush the poison out of your system.

I'm okay. Eating and drinking what I can. It's resolving slowly, but doing so. Thanks, both of you.

There you are. Glad you are feeling better.

Thanks veg. You're sweet.

Lacewing wrote:I hadn't heard... and I've been wondering. So sad.

Here's the last PM communication I received from him on May 10th:

Hi Lacewing,

Thank you for your concern. I've been having some serious health problems to deal with in recent times and have therefore been devoting my time to rewriting and editing a number of significant essays which are crucial to my philosophy. At this stage I'm not sure if I'll be interested in contributing to more general discussions in philosophy forums while so much of my own work remains so scattered and incomplete. The clock is running down on me.

Regards, Obvious Leo

I'm glad to have "known" him in this very small online way.

I am too. I will be reading his blog soon. I never had a link to it before. I think he has a lot to say of value.

Mind if I add a little thing here that I recall? I was discussing my favourite topic (lol), and in my usual manner, used the term 'extants' for us. Well Leo wasn't happy being called an extant, and said as much, to which I replied it wasn't an insult, but merely meant we presently existed. I'm not trying for humour here, trust me, but I wonder if he'd mind the term, had he known how little time he had.... Anyways, God bless you Leo.

Now this is sad news.

Here's one of the death notices http://tributes.heraldsun.com.au/notice/300112004/view. I searched after he didn't reply to emails, which was unlike him. It was a very sad discovery for me.

If you miss Leo's distinctive "voice", you can be reminded here in his summary of a larger manifesto that I suspect he didn't finish: https://austintorney.wordpress.com/2015 ... n-de-jong/

Brain-bending passages can be found with word searches like "fractal" and "grav-time", and amusement can be found with searches for "newton"

The ghost of Obvious Leo wrote:Gottfried [Leibniz] saw three-dimensional space as a solely mathematical entity with no metaphysical provenance whatsoever, a prescient notion which Einstein would have done well to heed a couple of centuries later. Einstein’s attempt to put lipstick on a pig was no more than a finely crafted embellishment on the Newtonian space which managed to render our universe utterly incomprehensible, as if it wasn’t already incomprehensible enough.

However Leibniz was by no means the only one over the centuries who had differed from Descartes’ peculiar slant on things. The Persian philosopher/mathematicians had known many centuries earlier that our spaces were mathematical objects and not physical ones. They were unburdened by the constraints of Aquinas-thought and could see that a universe that has always existed has no need of a physical space because its journey is through TIME alone.

Greta wrote:Here's one of the death notices http://tributes.heraldsun.com.au/notice/300112004/view. I searched after he didn't reply to emails, which was unlike him. It was a very sad discovery for me.

If you miss Leo's distinctive "voice", you can be reminded here in his summary of a larger manifesto that I suspect he didn't finish: https://austintorney.wordpress.com/2015 ... n-de-jong/

Brain-bending passages can be found with word searches like "fractal" and "grav-time", and amusement can be found with searches for "newton"

The ghost of Obvious Leo wrote:Gottfried [Leibniz] saw three-dimensional space as a solely mathematical entity with no metaphysical provenance whatsoever, a prescient notion which Einstein would have done well to heed a couple of centuries later. Einstein’s attempt to put lipstick on a pig was no more than a finely crafted embellishment on the Newtonian space which managed to render our universe utterly incomprehensible, as if it wasn’t already incomprehensible enough.

However Leibniz was by no means the only one over the centuries who had differed from Descartes’ peculiar slant on things. The Persian philosopher/mathematicians had known many centuries earlier that our spaces were mathematical objects and not physical ones. They were unburdened by the constraints of Aquinas-thought and could see that a universe that has always existed has no need of a physical space because its journey is through TIME alone.

I loved the way he wrote: very clear, and he was able to explain difficult concepts in a way that anyone could understand. That's quite rare, and shows he really knew his subject. I must say that when he hadn't been around for a week or so I had misgivings.

I agree, Veg, he helped me clear up some ideas and question others. It's good that he's left this work behind so that if one is in the mood for a Leo fix or feeling a tad leery about the reality of spacetime, at least we can revisit his unfinished manifesto's summary online. I always found him to be a warm and super-interesting person, although some did not experience that warmth

Greta wrote:I agree, Veg, he helped me clear up some ideas and question others. It's good that he's left this work behind so that if one is in the mood for a Leo fix or feeling a tad leery about the reality of spacetime, at least we can revisit his unfinished manifesto's summary online. I always found him to be a warm and super-interesting person, although some did not experience that warmth

True. I don't think he suffered fools (bob) gladly

Leo was a good man and I’ll remember him that way. He studied bees, I felt him briefly study me and I felt kindness there. He studied crows, he liked wine, he understood much. He challenged and had good energy.

The last question I asked him was if Feynman’s insight concerning electrons transcending time was figurative or literal. And he answered me. How kind and generous of him. That’s what I’ll remember, that and a conspicuously absent response that told me he might be pondering something recent.

I suspect that some of the unfinished work he referenced was to organize the realizations he scattered across the universe of the web like diamonds and stars. An act of purification and truth for those with time and the need to experience the nature of devotion would be to collect, collate and add commentary to his thoughts. Perhaps chaptered by the big questions of life. Oh yes, it could be a best-seller.

So long, Leo. Much respect.

artisticsolution wrote:So long, Leo. Much respect.

Perhaps a 'mad hatter' in a black hole, or cosmic scene? Le Petit Prince? (Art ideas.) Meh. Just a thought.

Dalek Prime wrote:

artisticsolution wrote:So long, Leo. Much respect.

Perhaps a 'mad hatter' in a black hole, or cosmic scene? Le Petit Prince? (Art ideas.) Meh. Just a thought.

Thank Dalek, I always love to hear your ideas. Today is a challenge...could use some Leo in my life right now. Rational sane people are the comfort zone for me...whyou do they seem to die off sooner than the fn loons? I swear I am at my wits end with loons. Couldn't Trump have died instead of Leo? Is that too much to ask?

No More Loons! It's just too much Drama....can you tell I am about to lose my shit?