'From each, according to ability, to each, according to need.'

How should society be organised, if at all?

Moderators: AMod, iMod

'From each, according to ability, to each, according to need.'

good idea
5
50%
bad idea
3
30%
other
2
20%
 
Total votes: 10

Skip
Posts: 2818
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:34 pm

Re:

Post by Skip »

henry quirk wrote: Where did I say I had no use for such things,
there:
Self-direct, self-rely, expect no help.
and what do those things have to do with 'from each, according to ability, to each, according to need'?
As I explained earlier, that is simply one of the models on which the co-operative endeavours of human societies may be organized. Another model is each-against-all competition, another is feudalism, another is the hive, and so on. Why is this a problem?
User avatar
henry quirk
Posts: 16379
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 8:07 pm
Location: 🔥AMERICA🔥
Contact:

Post by henry quirk »

"there:"

Yeah, goin' by that alone, I can see where you might conclude I have no use for such things.

To clarify, as I've posted on multiple occasions, in multiple threads, I favor cooperation and competition, with a chief example of both being the unrestricted or unrestrained transaction between individuals (an unprotected open market).

#

"Why is this a problem?"

That 'from each, according...' is one model among many, is not a problem; that 'from each, according...' becomes the codified, enforced, over-riding model 'is' a problem (mebbe not for you [earlier comments of yours in this thread say {to me} you favor a socialist or communitarian model], but most certainly for me [and mebbe two or three others, in forum, based on the above poll]).
Last edited by henry quirk on Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Skip
Posts: 2818
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:34 pm

Re:

Post by Skip »

henry quirk wrote: That 'from each according...' is a model is not a problem; that 'from each according...' becomes the codified, enforced, over-riding model 'is' a problem (mebbe not for you [earlier comments of yours in this thread say {to me} you favor a socialist model], but most certainly for me).
It needn't be a problem for anyone. Just don't move to Denmark. If you already live in an enlightened country, emigrate to Texas and you'll be fine.
User avatar
henry quirk
Posts: 16379
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 8:07 pm
Location: 🔥AMERICA🔥
Contact:

Post by henry quirk »

I'll go where I like, when I like, but thanks for the advice.
Skip
Posts: 2818
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:34 pm

Re: 'From each, according to ability, to each, according to need.'

Post by Skip »

They'll let you wear six-shooters and look ever-so rough, tough and manly!
Impenitent
Posts: 5775
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:04 pm

Re: 'From each, according to ability, to each, according to need.'

Post by Impenitent »

they still hang you in Texas if you steal cattle...

-Imp
Walker
Posts: 16386
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:00 am

Re: 'From each, according to ability, to each, according to need.'

Post by Walker »

Everyone gives according to their ability, though one’s ability may be hampered by lots of things, including oneself. Taking into account that everyone is in some way hampered, even if by attitude, then everyone can do nothing other than give according to their ability.

Since every right has a responsibility
And free healthcare is a right
What’s the responsibility
Of that right?
Skip
Posts: 2818
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:34 pm

Re: 'From each, according to ability, to each, according to need.'

Post by Skip »

Walker wrote: Since every right has a responsibility
Where is that written?
And free healthcare is a right
Who said this? Nothing is free. Universal public coverage is simply an alternative health insurance.
What’s the responsibility
Of that right?
Paying your dues and deductibles. Just like any other insurance policy.

Why do so many people have difficulty understanding this?
Or is it that they choose to misrepresent it? If so, why?
User avatar
henry quirk
Posts: 16379
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 8:07 pm
Location: 🔥AMERICA🔥
Contact:

Post by henry quirk »

"They'll let you wear six-shooters and look ever-so rough, tough and manly!"

I'm sure you're quite fetching in a dress, all frilly and pink.
Skip
Posts: 2818
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:34 pm

Re:

Post by Skip »

henry quirk wrote: I'm sure you're quite fetching in a dress, all frilly and pink.
Those were the days, ah yes, those were the days!
Now it's all dark solids and vertical stripes.
User avatar
henry quirk
Posts: 16379
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 8:07 pm
Location: 🔥AMERICA🔥
Contact:

Post by henry quirk »

HA!

No accountin' for fashion.
Skip
Posts: 2818
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:34 pm

Re: 'From each, according to ability, to each, according to need.'

Post by Skip »

or flab
Walker
Posts: 16386
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:00 am

Re: 'From each, according to ability, to each, according to need.'

Post by Walker »

Skip wrote:
Walker wrote:
Everyone gives according to their ability, though one’s ability may be hampered by lots of things, including oneself. Taking into account that everyone is in some way hampered, even if by attitude, then everyone can do nothing other than give according to their ability.
Since every right has a responsibility
Where is that written?
And free healthcare is a right
Who said this? Nothing is free. Universal public coverage is simply an alternative health insurance.
What’s the responsibility
Of that right?
Paying your dues and deductibles. Just like any other insurance policy.

Why do so many people have difficulty understanding this?
Or is it that they choose to misrepresent it? If so, why?
In the Land of where there’s laws against monopoly being ignored there’s a progressing, inevitable chain of events set into motion towards a single-payer system. Monopoly by government decree. As The Trump tells us, if businessmen behaved in this way that politicians behave they would be wrong, and penalized.

It is written in the history and display of each according their capacity, and in nod to the OT and as a case for the others of all stripes (the aim of philosophy), of every nation and creed and color, according to Each’s ability.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bQnxlHZsjY

:lol:
Skip
Posts: 2818
Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:34 pm

Re: 'From each, according to ability, to each, according to need.'

Post by Skip »

Dream on!
Walker
Posts: 16386
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:00 am

Re: 'From each, according to ability, to each, according to need.'

Post by Walker »

Skip wrote:Dream on!
Dream A Little Dream of Me; Mammas and The Pappas
Life Is But A Dream; Buddha
Dream On; Arrowsmith
Post Reply