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Re: Thought experiment re "gender selective abortion"

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:37 am
by TSBU
Immanuel Can wrote:
TSBU wrote:As usual, it depends in what you call logic.
This is, of course, complete tommyrot. :wink: If you were right, there would be no point in arguing, since there would be no such thing as truth and no way to discover it.
You can't reach perfection, but you can be always better. And, of course, ther is no point in talking to you.

Re: Thought experiment re "gender selective abortion"

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:19 pm
by Immanuel Can
TSBU wrote:You can't reach perfection, but you can be always better. And, of course, ther is no point in talking to you.
It's not about "perfection." It's about truth, that's all.

But "better"...how would one know which direction that lay in if there were no "best," no ultimate truth about what we were trying to achieve? :shock:

Now, the "of course" in your sentence is derived from what? Is it from the fact that I'm not convinced that abortion is moral? But then, why does holding a contrary moral position to yours amount to a "no point in talking"? Only, I suspect, because you can't answer any of the perfectly legitimate questions I've already put to you without committing yourself to a morally-vulnerable position.

If I'm wrong about that, then you can very easily show I'm wrong. Go ahead.

Further, consider this: if it turns out that abortion is evil, then opting out of thinking about it simply will not get the blood of the abortionists' hands. It will rather make them willfully wrong, instead perhaps of only accidentally evil: they will add to their crime of killing the crime of willful indifference and chosen ignorance. In a sense, it will make them murderers, not merely manslaughterers.

Short of repentance and forgiveness, there is no moral place to hide on this issue.

Re: Thought experiment re "gender selective abortion"

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:00 pm
by vegetariantaxidermy
TSBU wrote:
Immanuel Can wrote:
TSBU wrote:As usual, it depends in what you call logic.
This is, of course, complete tommyrot. :wink: If you were right, there would be no point in arguing, since there would be no such thing as truth and no way to discover it.
You can't reach perfection, but you can be always better. And, of course, ther is no point in talking to you.
That's true. He's a phony kristian hypocrite. I don't know why you started another abortion thread. It just brings the self-righteous religious fucks out from under their rocks. They don't give a damn that when abortion is illegal it simply increases illegal abortions. In fact, that pleases them immensely, since it ensures that 'sinful, wanton' women get to die horribly from backstreet abortions. Kristians like Can are so transparently fake and misogynsitic it would be funny if it were not so sad and tragic.