Philosophy Now Forum

bobevenson wrote:At the federal, state and local level, laws say convicted felons are not allowed to own guns. They should, in fact, have the same constitutional rights as any American. There is absolutely no defensible argument against it, and if anybody cares to take me on, I'm waiting for you.

I tend to agree with you, however it is true that nobody cares.

X-con's are unlikely ever to get all their rights back.

There is a lot of prejudice against them.

yiostheoy wrote:

bobevenson wrote:At the federal, state and local level, laws say convicted felons are not allowed to own guns. They should, in fact, have the same constitutional rights as any American. There is absolutely no defensible argument against it, and if anybody cares to take me on, I'm waiting for you.

I tend to agree with you, however it is true that nobody cares.

X-con's are unlikely ever to get all their rights back.

There is a lot of prejudice against them.

Well, my proposed American Energy Party (AEP) will do everything under its power to end this government discrimination.

bobevenson wrote:

yiostheoy wrote:

bobevenson wrote:At the federal, state and local level, laws say convicted felons are not allowed to own guns. They should, in fact, have the same constitutional rights as any American. There is absolutely no defensible argument against it, and if anybody cares to take me on, I'm waiting for you.

I tend to agree with you, however it is true that nobody cares.

X-con's are unlikely ever to get all their rights back.

There is a lot of prejudice against them.

Well, my proposed American Energy Party (AEP) will do everything under its power to end this government discrimination.

In "Heller vs DC", Scalia pointed out that the SCOTUS views the States as reserving the right to regulate firearms possession. Therein he amended the 2nd Amendment.

Thus this will be a state by state issue of your'n. Not Federal.

bobevenson wrote:The AEP will take over a State with its mode of operation being the "Champagne Sherry Principle" I have described earlier. Either the Federal government makes substantial changes in the direction of AEP political theory or the State will demand secession from the Union night and day from an international stage.

The issue of succession was settled by Abraham Lincoln and Ulysses Grant.

Any similar futile attempt would be answered in a like manner.

yiostheoy wrote:

bobevenson wrote:The AEP will take over a State with its mode of operation being the "Champagne Sherry Principle" I have described earlier. Either the Federal government makes substantial changes in the direction of AEP political theory or the State will demand secession from the Union night and day from an international stage.

The issue of succession was settled by Abraham Lincoln and Ulysses Grant. Any similar futile attempt would be answered in a like manner.

Nothing is ever settled, my friend, and as I said, the Federal government will face continuous international embarrassment as the AEP relentlessly pursues its goal.

bobevenson wrote:

yiostheoy wrote:

bobevenson wrote:The AEP will take over a State with its mode of operation being the "Champagne Sherry Principle" I have described earlier. Either the Federal government makes substantial changes in the direction of AEP political theory or the State will demand secession from the Union night and day from an international stage.

The issue of succession was settled by Abraham Lincoln and Ulysses Grant. Any similar futile attempt would be answered in a like manner.

Nothing is ever settled, my friend, and as I said, the Federal government will face continuous international embarrassment as the AEP relentlessly pursues its goal.

After 8 years of GWB do you think the Feds in DC care about international opinion ???

bobevenson wrote:Washington, D.C. will have never seen anything like the AEP in action with both the House of Representatives and the Senate being filibustered 24/7 and the rest of the world watching in awe.

Washington DC will never see the AEP.

Dalek Prime wrote:

bobevenson wrote:Washington, D.C. will have never seen anything like the AEP in action with both the House of Representatives and the Senate being filibustered 24/7 and the rest of the world watching in awe.

Washington DC will never see the AEP.

Obviously, you're not a betting man.

bobevenson wrote:

Dalek Prime wrote:

bobevenson wrote:Washington, D.C. will have never seen anything like the AEP in action with both the House of Representatives and the Senate being filibustered 24/7 and the rest of the world watching in awe.

Washington DC will never see the AEP.

Obviously, you're not a betting man.

I just won at poker yesterday, and my investments made a good gain, even after paying me.

Dalek Prime wrote: Washington DC will never see the AEP.

Obviously, you're not a betting man.
I just won at poker yesterday.
What I meant was a betting man would never offer an open time frame, so you're just a wannabe betting man.

bobevenson wrote:

Dalek Prime wrote: Washington DC will never see the AEP.

Obviously, you're not a betting man.
I just won at poker yesterday.
What I meant was a betting man would never offer an open time frame, so you're just a wannabe betting man.

Oh, you mean I'm a wise investor. True.

Dalek Prime wrote:

bobevenson wrote:

Dalek Prime wrote: Washington DC will never see the AEP.

Obviously, you're not a betting man.
I just won at poker yesterday.
What I meant was a betting man would never offer an open time frame, so you're just a wannabe betting man.

Oh, you mean I'm a wise investor.

No, just the opposite. If you bet that Washington DC will never see the AEP, you can't collect your money until the end of time.

Twenty years will do nicely.