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Re: Why go through Spiritual Stress?
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:54 pm
by bobevenson
Jaded Sage wrote:That's not very becoming of a prophet.
Let's see, since prophecy is a divinely inspired utterance, when you say something is not very becoming of a prophet, you are in effect saying it's not very becoming of God, right?
Re: Why go through Spiritual Stress?
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:41 pm
by Jaded Sage
Fair enough.
Re: Why go through Spiritual Stress?
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:40 pm
by Walker
Jaded Sage wrote:Walker wrote:Jaded Sage wrote:What's the difference between regular stress and spiritual stress?
Regular stress is self-inflicted
Spiritual stress is inflicted upon you
Your response to either and your interpretation
of another's response to their own stress
is a window into your state of mind
All accusations are self-accusations
The cause of gray hair and white hair
Contrary to scientific mythology
So know the Judgers
Does anyone ever undergo regular stress?
Stand accused of liking this unless you’re in the 1.3%.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz5Q8qdDMb0
A funny how-to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKUvKE3bQlY
“If every instinct you have is wrong then the opposite would have to be right.”
Re: Why go through Spiritual Stress?
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:34 pm
by Jaded Sage
Why call it spiritual?
Also, sabotage and stress are two different things.
Re: Why go through Spiritual Stress?
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:33 pm
by duszek
I can think of regular self-inflicted stress:
When I am zealous to do something which is not so important.
Hastiness and greed and ambition lead to stress.
Bad breathing can lead to stress, also bad food.
Re: Why go through Spiritual Stress?
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:05 pm
by bobevenson
duszek wrote:I can think of regular self-inflicted stress: When I am zealous to do something which is not so important. Hastiness and greed and ambition lead to stress. Bad breathing can lead to stress, also bad food.
Also false prophets.
Re: Why go through Spiritual Stress?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:24 am
by Arising_uk
Why would a false prophet cause any stress at all? Unless it's to their shrink that is.
Re: Why go through Spiritual Stress?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:27 am
by thedoc
Bob seems to be stressing this thread, just say'in.
Re: Why go through Spiritual Stress?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:51 am
by AiR
Jaded Sage wrote:What's the difference between regular stress and spiritual stress?
Well, we all experience regular stress when we live in this world. I want this, I seek this, I want to be successful, I want to be rich, my family is not well, I have this problem, I have a health problem, the world is not being kind to me, and so on – these are some instances of regular stress that we face, which cannot be avoided. If your leg is broken, you have to face the stress. If you got fired from a job, you have to face the stress related to it. Spiritual stress is not something that you “have to” face, but you “choose to” face. You don’t need to think about questions such as: Who is God? Where is God? Why God? What God? How to find God? How to live spiritually? What is a soul? You don’t “need” this spiritual stress. You “choose” spiritual stress, but regular stress just falls on you.
AiR
Re: Why go through Spiritual Stress?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:19 am
by Obvious Leo
Anybody that wastes so much as a nanosecond worrying about god deserves all the stress he can get.
Re: Why go through Spiritual Stress?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:40 am
by AiR
attofishpi wrote:
Are they not part of this 'whole world' that seeks?
Who told you the spiritual quest will provide everlasting joy liberation nirvana?
What is nirvana -for that matter what is 'ultimate joy'?
My thought is little different regarding your question. True seekers who are seeking the truth will not go on spreading hate and terror. They are seeking something else and just to share with you, there must be some ulterior motive or a selfish desire that lies behind them. Seekers don’t have such ulterior motives and selfish desires. They seek the truth. They know life is about peace, bliss, joy and love, where is the question of hate?
Well, to be honest, nobody told me that spiritual quest will provide everlasting joy, liberation, and Nirvana. But my own experience has made me realize that spiritual quest gives peace, and it leads to joy and finally liberation while alive and God willing, enlightenment, Moksh, Nirvana, or ultimate joy after this life is over. While nobody has told me this, I learned this truth from the lives of great ones like Buddha, Jesus, Shankaracharya, and Ramana Maharishi.
AiR
Re: Why go through Spiritual Stress?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:44 am
by Greta
Let's make it easy. If God exists then each of us an expression of God. If God doesn't exist then each of us is an expression of nature. What label do you prefer? Spinoza might have chosen either.
There would seem to be many more stressful things than considering the wonders of nature and life and the almost unbelievable good fortune of our existence.
Re: Why go through Spiritual Stress?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:27 am
by Obvious Leo
Greta wrote: the almost unbelievable good fortune of our existence.
It's a good thing Dalek's not here to argue the point with you, Greta. He regards the fact of his own existence as an egregious violation of his human rights.
Re: Why go through Spiritual Stress?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:30 am
by Greta
Obvious Leo wrote:Greta wrote: the almost unbelievable good fortune of our existence.
It's a good thing Dalek's not here to argue the point with you, Greta. He regards the fact of his own existence as an egregious violation of his human rights.
Heh. I should speak for myself. No doubt there's plenty in African and the middle east who'd agree with Dalek.
Re: Why go through Spiritual Stress?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:36 pm
by bobevenson
Obvious Leo wrote:Anybody that wastes so much as a nanosecond worrying about god deserves all the stress he can get.
Wasting so much as a femtosecond, of course, only applies to worrying about Australia.