Why Christianity Fails in Terms of the Evidence

[Sam26]

If they want to waste their lives, this is a safer way than flattening pennies on the streetcar tracks, and equally productive.

I'm not as dogmatic as some of you. I do think there is more than just the physical universe. However, I don't think religion has many answers, it tends to be just as dogmatic as many atheists.

[HexHammer]

Eh ..Christianity ..u mean ..religion as of whole?

..but the last prophecy has begun! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E9ZZYlLIIc

[Sam26]

Eh ..Christianity ..u mean ..religion as of whole?

..but the last prophecy has begun! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E9ZZYlLIIc

Yes, I mean all religion, including Christianity. When you stop believing in things like this, maybe you'll start learning something of value.

[HexHammer]

Eh ..Christianity ..u mean ..religion as of whole?

..but the last prophecy has begun! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E9ZZYlLIIc

Yes, I mean all religion, including Christianity. When you stop believing in things like this, maybe you'll start learning something of value.

Don't lecture me when you are so glaringly ignorant!

[Dalek Prime]

Eh ..Christianity ..u mean ..religion as of whole?

..but the last prophecy has begun! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E9ZZYlLIIc

Yes, I mean all religion, including Christianity. When you stop believing in things like this, maybe you'll start learning something of value.

Don't lecture me when you are so glaringly ignorant!

I love this forum lol!

[Sam26]

Don't lecture me when you are so glaringly ignorant!

You sound like a real Christian to me - easily offended. Could it be that you're the one that's ignorant - maybe? The truth is, we're all ignorant. None of us have a corner on the truth. When you think you have all the answers, as many Christians do, that's when you need to take a close look at what you believe. However, this also happens in politics, people become ideologues for a particular point of view, and the evidence be damned.

[HexHammer]

Don't lecture me when you are so glaringly ignorant!

You sound like a real Christian to me - easily offended. Could it be that you're the one that's ignorant - maybe? The truth is, we're all ignorant. None of us have a corner on the truth. When you think you have all the answers, as many Christians do, that's when you need to take a close look at what you believe. However, this also happens in politics, people become ideologues for a particular point of view, and the evidence be damned.

Thing is, even non religious should see that this is spot on, if you can't, you either are in denial or not very bright.
..or both..

[Hobbes' Choice]

There is a very simple argument that shows that the Bible provides very little evidence to support the belief that Christ physically rose from the dead. I'm not saying there is no evidence, only that the evidence is so weak that it doesn't warrant believing in the Christian faith. I'm talking mainstream Christian denominational beliefs.

We're going to assume that the gospels are eyewitness accounts (this grants what most will not grant, because there are less than four eyewitness accounts), and we'll also assume they were written in the first century. Also we'll grant that the gospels were written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, which is another point that probably isn't true. So this argument grants what many others will not grant, and should not grant, and we'll still defeat the Christian belief in the resurrection. The reason for this particular attack is that Christianity falls to pieces if the resurrection is not true (at least for many Christians)..

Sorry but they do not count as eye witness accounts in any sense.
When was the story committed to paper?

[Hobbes' Choice]

Why Christianity Fails in Terms of the Evidence

That's the beauty of it.
To know the truth to it is to suffer the fate that only a true sage knows. Ultimately the evidence is in the eye of the beholder.

Bull(cough)Shit

[Hobbes' Choice]

Why Christianity Fails in Terms of the Evidence

That's the beauty of it.
To know the truth to it is to suffer the fate that only a true sage knows. Ultimately the evidence is in the eye of the beholder.

If evidence is so subjective, then anything and everything can be true or false. However, the evidence in this case is supposedly objective, and we can read it. It's not intellectually difficult. It's true that people tend to believe what they want to believe, but this is, in spite of the evidence/reasons.

Objective and subjective are not related to the truth, but what people can express and agree upon.

[Hobbes' Choice]

When one considers evidence one should always deduce to a binary decision.

It's not always a binary decision.

At the base level a decision is always binary Einstein.

That is not the case in the real world.

Have you stopped beating your dog. yes or no yes or no????

[Sam26]

Thing is, even non religious should see that this is spot on, if you can't, you either are in denial or not very bright.
..or both..

Ya, I'm probably not very bright, but I try.

[HexHammer]

Thing is, even non religious should see that this is spot on, if you can't, you either are in denial or not very bright.
..or both..

Ya, I'm probably not very bright, but I try.

See the vid without any prejudism, see that the prophecy are spot on.

[Sam26]

There is a very simple argument that shows that the Bible provides very little evidence to support the belief that Christ physically rose from the dead. I'm not saying there is no evidence, only that the evidence is so weak that it doesn't warrant believing in the Christian faith. I'm talking mainstream Christian denominational beliefs.

We're going to assume that the gospels are eyewitness accounts (this grants what most will not grant, because there are less than four eyewitness accounts), and we'll also assume they were written in the first century. Also we'll grant that the gospels were written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, which is another point that probably isn't true. So this argument grants what many others will not grant, and should not grant, and we'll still defeat the Christian belief in the resurrection. The reason for this particular attack is that Christianity falls to pieces if the resurrection is not true (at least for many Christians)..

Sorry but they do not count as eye witness accounts in any sense.
When was the story committed to paper?

I did say that we are going to assume it, that doesn't mean that it's so.

[Obvious Leo]

Sam. There is no such thing as objective evidence. Evidence is simply raw data and no data can be interpreted in the absence of a subjective narrative which applies a meaning to it, which means that ALL evidence is subjective by definition. Kant 101.

Atto. I seldom find myself on the same side of an argument as you but on this occasion we find ourselves on common ground. Boole's Laws of Thought are derived explicitly from Leibniz's Principle of Sufficient Reason and Boolean logic is nowadays seen as the understructure of all other logics. If this was not so then there would be no such thing as information theory and no such science as the science of computation.