What Poppy Day actually Means.

[Lacewing]

Connecting dots? What the hell are you talking about? I don't connect any goddamn dots!

This means that, which means another thing, which connects to something else, which loops back to verify this, blah, blah, blah.

You LIVE in a world of connecting bizarro dots to find your meaning, Bob. And you return to them again and again when you feel like you're falling off the edge of your charted map.

Now, please answer my question. Should be easy:

"What informs you to pick and choose between what's connected and what's not???"

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I thought the poppies were in honor of the heroin trade that we support in Afghanistan.

If only we had done that, then there would not have been so much loss of life.
The real battle in Afghanistan was not against Al-Queda, or the "Taliban", but waged against and between warlords whose only economic outlet was growing poppies.
Had we turned that into a legitimate trade with our medical supply industries, then peace would have broken out.
Instead the West created poverty and economic collapse and destroyed the poppy fields, the only economically viable option for most of the territories.

There's a video around the internet of giggling American thugs operating a drone and using it to blow up an old man planting poppies.
Afghanistan is the reason I can't stand Prince Harry, the warmongering little prik.

[bobevenson]

Connecting dots? What the hell are you talking about? I don't connect any goddamn dots!

This means that, which means another thing, which connects to something else, which loops back to verify this, blah, blah, blah.

You LIVE in a world of connecting bizarro dots to find your meaning, Bob. And you return to them again and again when you feel like you're falling off the edge of your charted map.

Now, please answer my question. Should be easy:

"What informs you to pick and choose between what's connected and what's not???"

I don't pick and choose anything. Your problem is that you simply cannot accept the mystical events surrounding Ouzo that are signs of my divine guidance. These signs initially surfaced in my childhood, and I'd be happy to relate them to you, step by step, leading to "The Ouzo Prophecy," if you were, in fact, at all interested.

[Hobbes' Choice]

I thought the poppies were in honor of the heroin trade that we support in Afghanistan.

If only we had done that, then there would not have been so much loss of life.
The real battle in Afghanistan was not against Al-Queda, or the "Taliban", but waged against and between warlords whose only economic outlet was growing poppies.
Had we turned that into a legitimate trade with our medical supply industries, then peace would have broken out.
Instead the West created poverty and economic collapse and destroyed the poppy fields, the only economically viable option for most of the territories.

There's a video around the internet of giggling American thugs operating a drone and using it to blow up an old man planting poppies.
Afghanistan is the reason I can't stand Prince Harry, the warmongering little prik.

He's royalty - you need nothing else .

[wtf]

Instead the West created poverty and economic collapse and destroyed the poppy fields, the only economically viable option for most of the territories.

I am sorry but that is the direct opposite of what I understand to be the truth.

When the Taliban took over (before the US got there), they destroyed the poppy fields and all but eliminated heroin trafficking. When the US came in and put Karzai in power, the heroin trade came back. Karzai's brother was well known to be the biggest heroin trafficker in the country.

The claim that the west destroyed the poppy fields is simply false. The Taliban destroyed the heroin trade; the US brought it back.

And in general, you can look back in history and see that wherever the US military goes, drug trade thrives. Heroin smuggling was huge during the Vietnam war. During Reagan's covert war in central America, the CIA was flying in cocaine by the planeload. Even Sixty Minutes did a piece on it, how mainstream is that? This isn't secret knowledge. Now we're in Afghanistan and the heroin trade is thriving.

I truly don't know how you can claim that the west "destroyed the poppy fields." The Taliban destroyed the poppy fields, the US brought them back.

The US, which runs a global "war on drugs," is behind the trade in drugs. You could look it up.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Speaking of red poppies, the morons at google feel the need to inform me that it's 'remembrance day', along with a picture of a red poppy. Now why would the corporate arseholes at google particularly care whether or not it's 'remembrance day' (stupid fucks don't even use their own system to ascertain which countries actually 'celebrate' this). It's all shallow bullshit anyway, just like the whole USA.
So, the US is in Afghanistan to promote the multi billion dollar heroin trade. I always wondered why the fuck it was there at all. What a surprise that it's about money and evil backroom deals. It makes you start wondering if 11/9 was an 'inside job' after all. It certainly gave the US a convenient excuse to attack, rape, and commit genocide to its heart's content.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Instead the West created poverty and economic collapse and destroyed the poppy fields, the only economically viable option for most of the territories.

I am sorry but that is the direct opposite of what I understand to be the truth.

When the Taliban took over (before the US got there), they destroyed the poppy fields and all but eliminated heroin trafficking. ...

The US, which runs a global "war on drugs," is behind the trade in drugs. You could look it up.

Nah.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Instead the West created poverty and economic collapse and destroyed the poppy fields, the only economically viable option for most of the territories.

I am sorry but that is the direct opposite of what I understand to be the truth.

When the Taliban took over (before the US got there), they destroyed the poppy fields and all but eliminated heroin trafficking. ...

The US, which runs a global "war on drugs," is behind the trade in drugs. You could look it up.

Nah.

''Afghanistan has been the world's greatest illicit opium producer, ahead of Burma (Myanmar), the "Golden Triangle", and Latin America since 1992, excluding the year 2001.[1] Afghanistan is the main producer of opium in the "Golden Crescent". Opium production in Afghanistan has been on the rise since U.S. occupation started in 2001.[4] Based on UNODC data, opium poppy cultivation was more in each of the growing seasons in the periods between 2004 and 2007 than in any one year during Taliban rule. More land is now used for opium in Afghanistan than is used for coca cultivation in Latin America. In 2007, 92% of the non-pharmaceutical-grade opiates on the world market originated in Afghanistan.[2] This amounts to an export value of about $4 billion, with a quarter being earned by opium farmers and the rest going to district officials, insurgents, warlords, and drug traffickers.[3] In the seven years (1994–2000) prior to a Taliban opium ban, the Afghan farmers' share of gross income from opium was divided among 200,000 families.[4] In addition to opiates, Afghanistan is also the largest producer of cannabis (mostly as hashish) in the world.[5][6] In 2004, a fatwa was issued by Muslim clerics claiming that opium production is contrary to the sharia law and that opium producers would face punishments in accordance with the sharia.[7]'

Gee, I wonder why the US would be so eager to protect the opium trade.

[Hobbes' Choice]

I am sorry but that is the direct opposite of what I understand to be the truth.

When the Taliban took over (before the US got there), they destroyed the poppy fields and all but eliminated heroin trafficking. ...

The US, which runs a global "war on drugs," is behind the trade in drugs. You could look it up.

Nah.

''Afghanistan has been the world's greatest illicit opium producer, ahead of Burma (Myanmar), the "Golden Triangle", and Latin America since 1992, excluding the year 2001.[1] Afghanistan is the main producer of opium in the "Golden Crescent". Opium production in Afghanistan has been on the rise since U.S. occupation started in 2001.[4] Based on UNODC data, opium poppy cultivation was more in each of the growing seasons in the periods between 2004 and 2007 than in any one year during Taliban rule. More land is now used for opium in Afghanistan than is used for coca cultivation in Latin America. In 2007, 92% of the non-pharmaceutical-grade opiates on the world market originated in Afghanistan.[2] This amounts to an export value of about $4 billion, with a quarter being earned by opium farmers and the rest going to district officials, insurgents, warlords, and drug traffickers.[3] In the seven years (1994–2000) prior to a Taliban opium ban, the Afghan farmers' share of gross income from opium was divided among 200,000 families.[4] In addition to opiates, Afghanistan is also the largest producer of cannabis (mostly as hashish) in the world.[5][6] In 2004, a fatwa was issued by Muslim clerics claiming that opium production is contrary to the sharia law and that opium producers would face punishments in accordance with the sharia.[7]'

Gee, I wonder why the US would be so eager to protect the opium trade.

The US failed in Afghanistan because they tried to suppress opium, by burning fields.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

The US failed in Afghanistan because they tried to suppress opium, by burning fields.

That's not what the evidence says.

[Hobbes' Choice]

The US failed in Afghanistan because they tried to suppress opium, by burning fields.

That's not what the evidence says.

Why do you think they had so much trouble with the warlords as their time their progressed?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

The US failed in Afghanistan because they tried to suppress opium, by burning fields.

That's not what the evidence says.

Why do you think they had so much trouble with the warlords as their time their progressed?

Then what the fuck has the US been in Afghanistan for? It never does anything unless it involves its own monetary interests. It also created the Taliban.

[Hobbes' Choice]

That's not what the evidence says.

Why do you think they had so much trouble with the warlords as their time their progressed?

Then what the fuck has the US been in Afghanistan for? It never does anything unless it involves its own monetary interests. It also created the Taliban.

You don't know what the Taliban is.
US might have contributed to the creation of ISIS and Al Queda but "Taliban" is created by the world-wide funding of Wahahabi Universities preaching the doctrine of the Caliphate all paid for by Saudi-Arabia.
Saudi Arabia is funding the ideologues that want to bring about an International Caliphate.
There is no doubt that in the vacuum of government caused by the US invasion, Opium production rocketed, and much of that cash went to fund Al Queda and other nascent terrorist projects.
I'm also pretty sure that individual Americans may well have got their noses in the trough to sell drugs illegally, But the US made money from the arms race. The government had no need to get its hands dirty.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

You don't know what the Taliban is.
US might have contributed to the creation of ISIS and Al Queda but "Taliban" is created by the world-wide funding of Wahahabi Universities preaching the doctrine of the Caliphate all paid for by Saudi-Arabia.
Saudi Arabia is funding the ideologues that want to bring about an International Caliphate.
There is no doubt that in the vacuum of government caused by the US invasion, Opium production rocketed, and much of that cash went to fund Al Queda and other nascent terrorist projects.
I'm also pretty sure that individual Americans may well have got their noses in the trough to sell drugs illegally, But the US made money from the arms race. The government had no need to get its hands dirty.

I meant Al Quaeda. It's easy to lose track of all the terrorist organisations the US funds and arms.

[Pluto]

If there's a surge in poppy wearing in the UK it's a planned thing to instil and propagate the idea of sacrifice. A war will break out sooner than later between the big powers and you are expected to take part and go along. I saw a news anchor ask a celeb from 'carry on', what do you think of people who don't wear, she said something like, they can go fuck themselves. The anchor laughed in agreement and respect. Those who do, those who don't. In fact as planned the war debate between pro and against has already started. Are you for or against. Get the initial platform up and running in ghost formation so that the public are primed for the real. Look out for the word 'coward' in your daily programming. We divide people into camps of opposition.