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Re: Do What Matters
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:09 am
by AiR
Risto wrote:AiR wrote:
What is it that truly matters? What truly matters is who we are and why we are here. What is the purpose of life? What should we do? What should we achieve? The true purpose of life is to find out who we are.
What matters is to build a relationship with the power that gave us life; what matters is for us to go back to the source we came from; what matters is for us to realize that we are not this body but the divine spirit within.
The purpose of life is to realize God and we must stop doing things that don’t matter, so that we can do this one thing that truly matters and that is, to realize God.
AiR
What do you mean by "to find out who we are"? Do you mean the purpose of life is personal development? Studying the nature? If so, what does god have to do with this?
In contrary to what most of us think that we are this body, the reality is that this body is just inert matter that ceases to exist after death. Even though we all know that this is our body, we are not “just” the body. In fact, I can say personal enquiry is the true purpose of life, not personal development. We have to find out who we are and for that, realizing the true self is the true purpose of life. Studying human nature, contemplating and introspecting into where we came from, and where Nature was created will provoke us to find more answers. Therefore, we must contemplate and introspect about our life. This is how we will be able to find out who we truly are. God plays a very vital role in this whole thing because at the end of it, we will realize that the Creator, the Master, the Lord – he is omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent beyond our wildest comprehension and without God, none of these things would happen. He is the doer and he is the enjoyer. He is the one who manifests as you, me and everything else on earth, but it takes a long time to come to that realization. If we have faith, it will happen. We just have to keep believing.
AiR
Re: Do What Matters
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:56 pm
by surreptitious57
AIR wrote:
What truly matters is who we are and why we are here. What is the purpose of life? What
should we do? What should we achieve? The true purpose of life is to find out who we are
That may be so with regard to your own life but not everyone thinks likewise. For I am an existential nihilist and so I do not think there is
any purpose or meaning in the grand scheme of things. You are born and you live and you die and that is it as far as I am concerned. Now
I am more than happy to be proved wrong one but until I actually am I shall carry on thinking the way I do as I see no sound reason not to
Re: Do What Matters
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:14 pm
by bobevenson
surreptitious57 wrote:I am an existential nihilist and so I do not think there is any purpose or meaning in the grand scheme of things.
Of course, you don't have the slightest idea what the grand scheme of things might be, so what you think is ipso facto meaningless. I suggest you pursue Ouzo, the prophecy, not the drink.
Re: Do What Matters
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:34 pm
by surreptitious57
bobevenson wrote:
Of course you do not have the slightest idea what the grand scheme of things might be
No but apparently you do even though you actually have no more idea than any one else
As none of us knows if there is any meaning to life or not but I see zero evidence for any
Re: Do What Matters
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:53 pm
by bobevenson
surreptitious57 wrote:bobevenson wrote:
Of course you do not have the slightest idea what the grand scheme of things might be
No but apparently you do even though you actually have no more idea than any one else
As none of us knows if there is any meaning to life or not but I see zero evidence for any
On the other hand, while nobody has an explanation for the big bang, I do have the distinct advantage of being a divinely inspired prophet on the planet Earth.
Re: Do What Matters
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:29 pm
by surreptitious57
bobevenson wrote:
I do have the distinct advantage of being a divinely inspired prophet on the planet Earth
You may have the distinct advantage of believing it but are just as human as anyone else
Re: Do What Matters
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:35 pm
by bobevenson
surreptitious57 wrote:bobevenson wrote:
I do have the distinct advantage of being a divinely inspired prophet on the planet Earth
You may have the distinct advantage of believing it but are just as human as anyone else
John on the isle of Patmos, the author of the book of Revelation in 96 A.D. was a prophet, and I have similar credentials.
Re: Do What Matters
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:56 pm
by surreptitious57
bobevenson wrote:
John on the isle of Patmos the author of the book of Revelation in 96 A D was a prophet and I have similar credentials
So what exactly are these so called credentials that you have managed to convince yourself that you actually possess
Re: Do What Matters
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:04 pm
by Harbal
bobevenson wrote:
John on the isle of Patmos, the author of the book of Revelation in 96 A.D. was a prophet, and I have similar credentials.
Similar in what way? Did he too have to write in
large, bold text to get anyone to notice him? Or similar because, like you, he couldn't keep his hand out of his own pants?
Re: Do What Matters
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:32 pm
by Lacewing
bobevenson wrote:
John on the isle of Patmos, the author of the book of Revelation in 96 A.D. was a prophet, and I have similar credentials.
...you're both nutjobs?
Re: Do What Matters
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:21 pm
by bobevenson
I'm a divinely inspired prophet with the credentials to prove it.
Re: Do What Matters
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:11 am
by Harbal
bobevenson wrote:I'm a divinely inspired prophet with the credentials to prove it.
Well done, Bob, I'm sure there will be a demand for prophets again some day.
Re: Do What Matters
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:27 am
by Dubious
bobevenson wrote:I'm a divinely inspired prophet with the credentials to prove it.
With credentials like that you should be writing News Letters. There are many thousands in the business who don't have the 'bona fides' you have and they're making a fortune. Besides, being God inspired trumps computer algorithms any day.
Re: Do What Matters
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:14 am
by SpheresOfBalance
AiR wrote:If you keep doing things that don’t matter to you, then when will you have the time to do the things that really do?
I love this quote because most of us are busy doing things that don’t matter and at the end, we do not have any time to do things that truly matter.
What is it that truly matters? What truly matters is who we are and why we are here. What is the purpose of life? What should we do? What should we achieve? The true purpose of life is to find out who we are. But instead of finding out who we are and why we are here and then moving on and ahead, we are so caught in samsaar, in this world, we are so distracted and diffused, that we are unable to contemplate, reflect, introspect and concentrate on God, the Creator, the supreme Power. By not doing so, we continue to do things which are irrelevant, and therefore by doing things which are irrelevant, we are left with no time for relevant things.
We have to reverse this. We have to stop doing things that don’t matter, so that we start doing things that matter. What matters is to build a relationship with the power that gave us life; what matters is for us to go back to the source we came from; what matters is for us to realize that we are not this body but the divine spirit within. And what matters is not to just realize that we are the divine spirit within, but to live as the liberated spirit – that is what matters. But instead of trying to do what matters, we do things that don’t matter.
Of course we all like to be entertained, who doesn’t? But we spend so much of our life being entertained that at the end of it all, apart from being entertained we have nothing else. Some people may ask: what is wrong in being entertained? Of course, there is nothing wrong in being entertained. The only problem is that the time that was used in being entertained was not used in understanding and achieving the purpose of life. The purpose of life is to realize God and we must stop doing things that don’t matter, so that we can do this one thing that truly matters and that is, to realize God.
AiR
Sorry air, and it surely sounds hot to my ears.
I applaud your conviction. Have at it, if it feels good, if it entertains you. What it is that matters is subjective, as one is the only one laying down in the end. If what you believe about that event entertains your imagination, helps you along your path to that ends, it's good, if you require it. Most do, it would surely seem. The path to the truth of things is long and arduous, actually incapable of being completed, by any short human life. May you find it all worth it in the end!
Happy Holidays, to those that wish to celebrate, whatever it is they wish to celebrate, in the truest sense, of course!