~ The Case For Universal Basic Income ~

[bobevenson]

What's your point?

[Bill Wiltrack]

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Spread the Wealth.

Why have billions of people sufferingfor their basic needs while .01% citizens of the planet have more wealth than they could possibly experience or enjoy?






...we need a world-wide, world recognized Robin Hood.



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[henry quirk]

"Spread the Wealth"

Okay. I have as much money as god...how I got it is irrelevant...for the sake of argument, let's say, in one way or the other, I hoodwinked a whole whack of folks out of theirs, but I did it legally.

Okay. Now I'm well aware that there are bunches of folks who think I'm friggin' awful and who want what I got (cuz I don't deserve it, cuz they envy my wealth, etc.)...knowing this, I can go humble and generous and give it away, or, I can be cagey and give away a lot (I, of course, keep the lion's share), or, I can *shrug* and do any- and every-thing to preserve what's mine (by way of possession and control, if nuthin' else).

Okay. Any one who has a mind to, look around and tell me, how many wealthy folks are givin' it away, how many are givin' some of it away, how many are just ignoring all the bad press and keepin' every dime?

Spread the Wealth?

Good luck with that.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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Answer = Socialism


...I did mention a Robin Hood figure was needed.


When you*shrug* I'm assuming that means rubbing one out?




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[henry quirk]

Socialism (from one according to ability, to one according to need) usually means a politburo (a group who is 'more equal' than the common folks) to oversee all that 'fair' dispensing of resource. Human nature being what it is, well, as I say: good luck with that.

To *shrug* is to show indifference, you perv.

Mebbe you oughta leave your johnson be for a while.

[henry quirk]

Robin Hood: if I got god's money, I can buy him or have him shot in the face.

Fairytales are great for bedtime, but absolutely awful as a blueprint for life.

[bobevenson]

Why have billions of people suffering for their basic needs while .01% citizens of the planet have more wealth than they could possibly experience or enjoy?

Again, what's your stupid point? If you took away every last cent of the .01% and gave it to those billions of other people, their fucking lives wouldn't be changed one iota. Ever think of using your stupid brain, or do you just like to make stupid posts? The real answer is that you are just fucking jealous of anybody who is the least bit successful in life.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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Each of our lives are defined & DETERMINED BY LUCK.

Actually, if the world's richest 1% did give all their money to the poorest 1 Billion on earth it would make a tremendous difference in their lives.

But the logistics in doing so would prove to be impossible.

That equation is not really the focus of this thread.




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Universal basic income is a different & doable proposition.


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[Bill Wiltrack]

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“One hundred percent of income growth in this country since the 1980s has gone to the top ten percent and that’s not only wrong, that is going to destroy our country unless we take our country back!”
~ Senator Elizabeth Warren ~




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[henry quirk]

Make of this what you willl...

http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/03/combined- ... world.html

[henry quirk]

From the piece…

What would happen if you sold everything you own, liquidated any investments you have, paid off all of your debts, and withdrew whatever cash you have in bank accounts?

Okay now, imagine that everyone else in the world does that too (just pretend that makes sense), and all the people of the world, naked and holding their wealth in cash, come together and throw their wealth into a big pile together. How much money would be in that pile?

$241,000,000,000,000.

And if the world’s wealth were distributed completely evenly and every adult human had an even share, everyone would have $51,600(.)

And: if you divided up that $241,000,000,000,000 among just the poorest one billion, each would get $241,000(.)


From this, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World ... aires_2015 …

In the 29th annual list of global billionaires, a record 1,826 billionaires were named with an aggregated net worth of $7.05 trillion(.)

And: if you divvied up that among the poorest one billion, each would get $7,050.

[bobevenson]

All of this is just basic bullshit. Taking from the rich and giving it to the poor would make everybody even poorer in terms of his standard of living. But you can't communicate this to a socialist, just like you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

[Arising_uk]

All of this is just basic bullshit. Taking from the rich and giving it to the poor would make everybody even poorer in terms of his standard of living. But you can't communicate this to a socialist, just like you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

Don't tell me bobby, you still believe in trickle-down economics All modern democratic capitalist economies have a socialist aspect bobby, it's why they have taxation as if they didn't then the wealth would accumulate at the top and not be used effectively and if you keep making your poor poorer sooner or later they start to listen to the demagogues and a very anti-capitalist system arises and its not nice for democratic capitalism. But then that is what you wish isn't it as end-of-times is your bag.

[bobevenson]

All of this is just basic bullshit. Taking from the rich and giving it to the poor would make everybody even poorer in terms of his standard of living. But you can't communicate this to a socialist, just like you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

Don't tell me bobby, you still believe in trickle-down economics All modern democratic capitalist economies have a socialist aspect bobby, it's why they have taxation as if they didn't then the wealth would accumulate at the top and not be used effectively and if you keep making your poor poorer sooner or later they start to listen to the demagogues and a very anti-capitalist system arises and its not nice for democratic capitalism. But then that is what you wish isn't it as end-of-times is your bag.

Stay away from the spiritual, political and economic since none of them are your bag. The only proper function of government is social integration, like a traffic cop keeping people from running into each other. Government should not own, operate, support or promote anything. The only proper economic system is free-market capitalism and the only proper form of taxation is a single tax on property, property being defined as anything with intrinsic market value. Bob the Baptist, divinely inspired, has thus spoken.

[Arising_uk]

You are the classic monomaniacal internut bobby.

Which form of 'free-market' capitalism are you promoting bobby?
p.s.
So this divine inspiration bobby, who or what provides it, a 'God'?