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Re: determimism
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:39 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
HexHammer wrote:Obvious Leo wrote:HexHammer wrote:
If you waste time on determinism, then it has no relevance.
This statement is false. The nature of determinism is the single most important question faced by the science of physics because they've got it fucking WRONG. Modern physics is inescapably an Intelligent Design paradigm and until such time as physicists face the fact that our universe is not a created entity then the models they use will continue to make no sense.
See, you speak straight out of your stupid ass!
Um? Let me see. Obvious makes a point, then Hex makes a point back. Let us compare for evidence of quality of argument; evidence of a thought process; and evidence of some sort of rational rational counterpoint.
Oh shit - I do not think Hex has made a convincing argument here....
Re: determimism
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:01 pm
by Obvious Leo
Hobbes' Choice wrote:Oh shit - I do not think Hex has made a convincing argument here....
Hex doesn't do arguments. Hex just does pulpit pronouncements which are accurately reflective of both his literacy and his processes of thought.
P.S. I allowed myself considerable latitude by using the term "processes of thought" in such a cavalier manner. Forgive me.
Re: determimism
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:23 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Obvious Leo wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:Oh shit - I do not think Hex has made a convincing argument here....
Hex doesn't do arguments. Hex just does pulpit pronouncements which are accurately reflective of both his literacy and his processes of thought.
P.S. I allowed myself considerable latitude by using the term "processes of thought" in such a cavalier manner. Forgive me.
Caveat accepted.
Re: determimism
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 8:01 pm
by HexHammer
Obvious Leo wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:Oh shit - I do not think Hex has made a convincing argument here....
Hex doesn't do arguments. Hex just does pulpit pronouncements which are accurately reflective of both his literacy and his processes of thought.
P.S. I allowed myself considerable latitude by using the term "processes of thought" in such a cavalier manner. Forgive me.
You haven't yet given just 1 example of how it can be used in any relevant process.
My claim still stands firm, it's nothing but mental mastuabtion for less intelligent people.
Re: determimism
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 8:15 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
HexHammer wrote:Obvious Leo wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:Oh shit - I do not think Hex has made a convincing argument here....
Hex doesn't do arguments. Hex just does pulpit pronouncements which are accurately reflective of both his literacy and his processes of thought.
P.S. I allowed myself considerable latitude by using the term "processes of thought" in such a cavalier manner. Forgive me.
You haven't yet given just 1 example of how it can be used in any relevant process.
My claim still stands firm, it's nothing but mental mastuabtion for less intelligent people.
I feel this is only because you don't really understand what it is all about.
But wait, let me jettison 2500 years of Philosophy and just take your fucking word for it.
Ah yes, ignorance is bliss.
Re: determimism
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:18 pm
by Obvious Leo
Hex. I have many dictionaries in my house but couldn't find this word in any of them.
What is mastuabtion?
Re: determimism
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:32 pm
by HexHammer
Obvious Leo wrote:Hex. I have many dictionaries in my house but couldn't find this word in any of them.
What is mastuabtion?
If you can't decipher it, then you are truly stupid.
Re: determimism
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:15 pm
by Dubious
Obvious Leo wrote:Hex. I have many dictionaries in my house but couldn't find this word in any of them.
What is mastuabtion?
...that's when you keep on rubbing your eyeballs instead of the other ones reading things you can't believe.
Re: determimism
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:01 pm
by HexHammer
Hobbes' Choice wrote:I feel this is only because you don't really understand what it is all about.
Then enlighten me! Show me what I've missed!!
Re: determimism
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:52 pm
by SpheresOfBalance
north western wrote:Does hard determinism imply that a blueprint for our universe was included in the big bang?
I think that if anything universal is to be called a blueprint it's physics, and it is deterministic, at least for this universe.
Or could the outcome been different?
How could any human know for sure? But I believe that the physics of our universe, is bound to this universe alone. That it's possible for another universe to have a completely different set of physical laws.
Re: determimism
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:57 pm
by SpheresOfBalance
Obvious Leo wrote:Hex. I have many dictionaries in my house but couldn't find this word in any of them.
What is mastuabtion?
To make fun of ones inability to master a second language, is the sign of a shallow mind. How many languages are you fluent in? Personally, I suck at one, but then I never was one much for rules.
Re: determimism
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:33 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
HexHammer wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:I feel this is only because you don't really understand what it is all about.
Then enlighten me! Show me what I've missed!!
What do you not understand by the phrase "2500 years of Philosophy"?
Re: determimism
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:38 pm
by HexHammer
Hobbes' Choice wrote:HexHammer wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:I feel this is only because you don't really understand what it is all about.
Then enlighten me! Show me what I've missed!!
What do you not understand by the phrase "2500 years of Philosophy"?
That's a retarded argument.
Philosphy lead to things like "spontanious genesis", "blood letting", "body has 4 liquids" ..etc, all kinds of stupid stuff, it was only when you did things methodically and scientifically, that we got rid of supersticion.
Your best argument is laughable bad!
Re: determimism
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:40 pm
by SpheresOfBalance
Hobbes' Choice wrote:I feel this is only because you don't really understand what it is all about.
HexHammer wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:HexHammer wrote:Then enlighten me! Show me what I've missed!!
What do you not understand by the phrase "2500 years of Philosophy"?
That's a retarded argument.
Philosphy lead to things like "spontanious genesis", "blood letting", "body has 4 liquids" ..etc, all kinds of stupid stuff, it was only when you did things methodically and scientifically, that we got rid of supersticion.
Your best argument is laughable bad!
Do you know what determinism is Hex?
Re: determimism
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 7:23 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
HexHammer wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:HexHammer wrote:
What do you not understand by the phrase "2500 years of Philosophy"?
That's a retarded argument.
Philosphy lead to things like "spontanious genesis", "blood letting", "body has 4 liquids" ..etc, all kinds of stupid stuff, it was only when you did things methodically and scientifically, that we got rid of supersticion.
Your best argument is laughable bad!
You counter argument is ridiculous. The things you list are not related to determinism.