HexHammer wrote:
If you waste time on determinism, then it has no relevance.
This statement is false. The nature of determinism is the single most important question faced by the science of physics because they've got it fucking WRONG. Modern physics is inescapably an Intelligent Design paradigm and until such time as physicists face the fact that our universe is not a created entity then the models they use will continue to make no sense.
See, you speak straight out of your stupid ass!
Um? Let me see. Obvious makes a point, then Hex makes a point back. Let us compare for evidence of quality of argument; evidence of a thought process; and evidence of some sort of rational rational counterpoint.
Oh shit - I do not think Hex has made a convincing argument here....
Hobbes' Choice wrote:Oh shit - I do not think Hex has made a convincing argument here....
Hex doesn't do arguments. Hex just does pulpit pronouncements which are accurately reflective of both his literacy and his processes of thought.
P.S. I allowed myself considerable latitude by using the term "processes of thought" in such a cavalier manner. Forgive me.
You haven't yet given just 1 example of how it can be used in any relevant process.
My claim still stands firm, it's nothing but mental mastuabtion for less intelligent people.
I feel this is only because you don't really understand what it is all about.
But wait, let me jettison 2500 years of Philosophy and just take your fucking word for it.
Ah yes, ignorance is bliss.
north western wrote:Does hard determinism imply that a blueprint for our universe was included in the big bang? I think that if anything universal is to be called a blueprint it's physics, and it is deterministic, at least for this universe.
Or could the outcome been different? How could any human know for sure? But I believe that the physics of our universe, is bound to this universe alone. That it's possible for another universe to have a completely different set of physical laws.
Obvious Leo wrote:Hex. I have many dictionaries in my house but couldn't find this word in any of them.
What is mastuabtion?
To make fun of ones inability to master a second language, is the sign of a shallow mind. How many languages are you fluent in? Personally, I suck at one, but then I never was one much for rules.
Hobbes' Choice wrote:I feel this is only because you don't really understand what it is all about.
Then enlighten me! Show me what I've missed!!
What do you not understand by the phrase "2500 years of Philosophy"?
That's a retarded argument.
Philosphy lead to things like "spontanious genesis", "blood letting", "body has 4 liquids" ..etc, all kinds of stupid stuff, it was only when you did things methodically and scientifically, that we got rid of supersticion.
Hobbes' Choice wrote:I feel this is only because you don't really understand what it is all about.
HexHammer wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
HexHammer wrote:Then enlighten me! Show me what I've missed!!
What do you not understand by the phrase "2500 years of Philosophy"?
That's a retarded argument.
Philosphy lead to things like "spontanious genesis", "blood letting", "body has 4 liquids" ..etc, all kinds of stupid stuff, it was only when you did things methodically and scientifically, that we got rid of supersticion.
HexHammer wrote:
What do you not understand by the phrase "2500 years of Philosophy"?
That's a retarded argument.
Philosphy lead to things like "spontanious genesis", "blood letting", "body has 4 liquids" ..etc, all kinds of stupid stuff, it was only when you did things methodically and scientifically, that we got rid of supersticion.
Your best argument is laughable bad!
You counter argument is ridiculous. The things you list are not related to determinism.
