At what point do robots become self-aware?

[HexHammer]

It's odd that you immediately anthromporphise the idea of "self awareness'. As there is no necessary connection between "moral values", and "emotions", with self awareness I think you have got off on the wrong foot. I do not see speed as a necessary factor either.

The first place to start might be to ask if we have any reason to think that other humans or animals are self aware. Then see if what we think we mean by self aware makes any sense at all, before we disclude computers and robots.

Some people assert that the Universe is self aware. In this case computers would also have to have that quality. Personally this question reveals the paucity of that assertion as utterly ridiculous.

On the other extreme, whilst I can accept that I am self aware, what is the evidential basis for me thinking that PhilX is self aware??

I agree with the first part, but IBM has made a "brain" chip that simulates synapses. http://research.ibm.com/cognitive-compu ... Qrnq1_EzpF

[Philosophy Explorer]

When you stop asking stupid questions and fuck off this forum.

"Telling someone to go research something isn't philosophy and isn't productive debate. At best, it's simply off-topic. More likely, it's an insulting insinuation that the person is ignorant and an ad hominem fallacy.

The rules regarding being on-topic, particularly when it comes to personal attacks and ad hominem fallacies, are there precisely to avoid cozy chat and be conducive to on-topic productive debate void of off-topic blabbering, personal attacks and flame wars."

PhilX

Apparently you don't have a clue what you are saying, so I must consider you a bot.

Hex, you're a fool. You missed the quote. It's not my saying LOL.

PhilX

[HexHammer]

Hex, you're a fool. You missed the quote. It's not my saying LOL.

PhilX

Excellent proof of why you never give any comment on topic, to your threads, you are simply too stupid to comprehend sub basic matters.

I assume you have had major brain damage, since your interests are of high intellectual value, but can't assert them.

[Philosophy Explorer]

Hex, you're a fool. You missed the quote. It's not my saying LOL.

PhilX

Excellent proof of why you never give any comment on topic, to your threads, you are simply too stupid to comprehend sub basic matters.

I assume you have had major brain damage, since your interests are of high intellectual value, but can't assert them.

What's the matter Hex. Don't you recognize your old stomping ground, you fool?

PhilX

[HexHammer]

Hex, you're a fool. You missed the quote. It's not my saying LOL.

PhilX

Excellent proof of why you never give any comment on topic, to your threads, you are simply too stupid to comprehend sub basic matters.

I assume you have had major brain damage, since your interests are of high intellectual value, but can't assert them.

What's the matter Hex. Don't you recognize your old stomping ground, you fool?

See, you only have the logic of a child, you simply don't have the logic of an adult, come now prove me wrong.

[Philosophy Explorer]

What's the matter Hex. Don't you recognize your old stomping ground, you fool?

See, you only have the logic of a child, you simply don't have the logic of an adult, come now prove me wrong.[/quote]

I don't have to as you've proven yourself wrong, you sorry excuse of a human being.

PhilX

[HexHammer]

What's the matter Hex. Don't you recognize your old stomping ground, you fool?

See, you only have the logic of a child, you simply don't have the logic of an adult, come now prove me wrong.

I don't have to as you've proven yourself wrong, you sorry excuse of a human being.

PhilX[/quote]See you can't even make a proper quote, you often fail at quoting. So you must have the mind of a kindergarten child.

[Philosophy Explorer]

What's the matter Hex. Don't you recognize your old stomping ground, you fool?

See, you only have the logic of a child, you simply don't have the logic of an adult, come now prove me wrong.

I don't have to as you've proven yourself wrong, you sorry excuse of a human being.

PhilX

See you can't even make a proper quote, you often fail at quoting. So you must have the mind of a kindergarten child.[/quote]

Ha ha ha. The one who can't even spell exactly correctly and makes numerous errors in spelling and grammar here and in his old stomping grounds, trying to say what kind of mind I have, you old retard.

PhilX

[HexHammer]

See, again you fail at making a simple quote, well ..English isn't my first language, so.

I'm tired of this puerile conversation. bye now have a nice day in your pathetic attention whoring life.

[Philosophy Explorer]

See, again you fail at making a simple quote, well ..English isn't my first language, so.

I'm tired of this puerile conversation. bye now have a nice day in your pathetic attention whoring life.

In order to be a judge, you simple retard, you need the skills that you sorely lack and just admitted to, you dumb ox. Come back when you grow up and learn respect.

PhilX

[Hobbes' Choice]

It's odd that you immediately anthromporphise the idea of "self awareness'. As there is no necessary connection between "moral values", and "emotions", with self awareness I think you have got off on the wrong foot. I do not see speed as a necessary factor either.

The first place to start might be to ask if we have any reason to think that other humans or animals are self aware. Then see if what we think we mean by self aware makes any sense at all, before we disclude computers and robots.

Some people assert that the Universe is self aware. In this case computers would also have to have that quality. Personally this question reveals the paucity of that assertion as utterly ridiculous.

On the other extreme, whilst I can accept that I am self aware, what is the evidential basis for me thinking that PhilX is self aware??

I agree with the first part, but IBM has made a "brain" chip that simulates synapses. http://research.ibm.com/cognitive-compu ... Qrnq1_EzpF

But this does not really answer what is self awareness and how would you know when you saw it?

[Hobbes' Choice]

See, again you fail at making a simple quote, well ..English isn't my first language, so.

I'm tired of this puerile conversation. bye now have a nice day in your pathetic attention whoring life.

In order to be a judge, you simple retard, you need the skills that you sorely lack and just admitted to, you dumb ox. Come back when you grow up and learn respect.

PhilX

Why not stop bitching and address the thread?

[HexHammer]

I agree with the first part, but IBM has made a "brain" chip that simulates synapses. http://research.ibm.com/cognitive-compu ... Qrnq1_EzpF

But this does not really answer what is self awareness and how would you know when you saw it?

I would read up on it's programmign, ability to learn then ask about a newly learned thing from the newspaper, and it's own relation to that news, then I might get a glimps of it's selfawareness.

[Philosophy Explorer]

See, again you fail at making a simple quote, well ..English isn't my first language, so.

I'm tired of this puerile conversation. bye now have a nice day in your pathetic attention whoring life.

In order to be a judge, you simple retard, you need the skills that you sorely lack and just admitted to, you dumb ox. Come back when you grow up and learn respect.

PhilX

Why not stop bitching and address the thread?

Well Golllllllly. Look who's talking. The other half of tweedle-dee, tweedle-dum, the all time master of bitching.
You couldn't hold a straight conversation on anything loser.

PhilX

[Hobbes' Choice]

In order to be a judge, you simple retard, you need the skills that you sorely lack and just admitted to, you dumb ox. Come back when you grow up and learn respect.

PhilX

Why not stop bitching and address the thread?

Well Golllllllly. Look who's talking. The other half of tweedle-dee, tweedle-dum, the all time master of bitching.
You couldn't hold a straight conversation on anything loser.

PhilX

Thus far you have contributed ZERO to your own fucking thread as per usual.