Philosophy Now Forum

bobevenson wrote:No, money belongs to the people, and the quantity of it should be controlled by the government, and should be equal to the property it represents (any money above that amount is inflation and a crime against the people who are being robbed of the value of their money). Any money held by the government should come from taxes, and the only proper form of taxation is a single tax on property.

Ok.

It appears that we have a misunderstanding.


Please explain the difference between "the Government" and "the people".

Brit Dems wrote: Please explain the difference between "the Government" and "the people".

Bob doesn't do explanations, mate. He's the messiah and therefore just does proclamations without regard to any of the commonly accepted conventions of explanatory authority. In terms of sense value you shouldn't set your expectations too high but in terms of entertainment value Bob sort of grows on you after a while.

Obvious Leo wrote:

Brit Dems wrote: Please explain the difference between "the Government" and "the people".

Bob doesn't do explanations, mate. He's the messiah and therefore just does proclamations without regard to any of the commonly accepted conventions of explanatory authority. In terms of sense value you shouldn't set your expectations too high but in terms of entertainment value Bob sort of grows on you after a while.

Ok

We will give Bob a chance to explain himself for the love of sophy.

bobevenson wrote: could anybody but a prophet come up with that explanation on the spur of the moment?

Absolutely not. Only the bloke who writes the pearls of wisdom for the Chinese fortune cookies could hold a candle to you in terms of your erudition, Bob. We await your next pronouncement with breathless anticipation.

Obvious Leo wrote:

bobevenson wrote: Could anybody but a prophet come up with that explanation on the spur of the moment?

We await your next pronouncement with breathless anticipation.

No you don't because you're all idiots.

bobevenson wrote:The only proper function of government is social integration, a mechanism that should answer to and be controlled by the people it represents. Now I ask you, could anybody but a prophet come up with that explanation on the spur of the moment?

What is "social integration"?

Let us explore that concept.

bobevenson wrote:The role of government in social integration is that of a traffic cop keeping people from running into each other. In other words, in any society you're going to have conflicts and disputes, and the function of government is to set the standards on how these disputes will be resolved, just like the referee in a soccer or football game who takes action if a team breaks the rules, which keeps the game running smoothly (Oh, my God, Bob, you know everything! Yeah, that's because I'm a prophet.).

Yes, that is clear. That is a management issue.

What is integrated?
Who are members of society in contrast to those who are not members of society?

Brit Dems wrote:

bobevenson wrote:The role of government in social integration is that of a traffic cop keeping people from running into each other. In other words, in any society you're going to have conflicts and disputes, and the function of government is to set the standards on how these disputes will be resolved, just like the referee in a soccer or football game who takes action if a team breaks the rules, which keeps the game running smoothly (Oh, my God, Bob, you know everything! Yeah, that's because I'm a prophet.).

Yes, that is clear. That is a management issue.

What is integrated?
Who are members of society in contrast to those who are not members of society?

Everybody under a government is a member of that society.

Integration
noun
5. behavior, as of an individual, that is in harmony with the environment.

bobevenson wrote:

Brit Dems wrote:
Yes, that is clear. That is a management issue.

What is integrated?
Who are members of society in contrast to those who are not members of society?

Everybody under a government is a member of that society.

Integration
noun
5. behavior, as of an individual, that is in harmony with the environment.

ok.

So people that do not want to be under/subject to a particular Government are also outside that society. Correct?

bobevenson wrote:Unfortunately, you can't get outside a society if you're in it. All you can do is leave or try to change it.

What do you think the IC2, Dark South European, Melanochroid, Greeks will do about European Union society?

Brit Dems wrote:

bobevenson wrote:Unfortunately, you can't get outside a society if you're in it. All you can do is leave or try to change it.

What do you think the IC2, Dark South European, Melanochroid, Greeks will do about European Union society?

You're talking Greek to me, but the only Greek word I know is Ouzo.