Does activism film music games and art do nothing?

[Arising_uk]

Bullshit I've tried to get rallies going and noone participates. ...

Must be a generational thing as all the rallies I attended were well-attended. Maybe you should be using the new social media to do things?

Why do you think I came to these conclusions? Through scientific experimentation of course. ...

Your experience is not the scientific method.

That is why I know if Hitler was a geniune good person, and tried to rally the people for good, he would never have ever been able to get so big a crowd. So I consider his accomplishments "cheating", taking the easy road, so to speak. Humans are evil by default.

And yet Martin Luther, Desmond Tutu, Nelson Mandela, Gandi, et al, garnered great crowds? Maybe its your delivery? Humans are neither 'evil' nor 'good' by default.

I believe the only one who has faux love for animals is you. If you really cared about the humans you would want justice for the animals, not sympathizing with the evil humans.

I care little about any of them other than that not caring makes life more complicated as the uncared for cause trouble in various ways.

Either way, you wanna help humans, you wanna help animals? Fat chance either way, theyve had their paths chosen for them. You ain't gonna have any luck.

Like I said, you are a defeatist and as such what you wish for definitely won't be occurring. I come from an old marxist background and some of their approaches were useful, so don't think you'll be seeing the revolution just know it'll occur as long as you act resolutely with others.

[GreatandWiseTrixie]

Bullshit I've tried to get rallies going and noone participates. ...

Must be a generational thing as all the rallies I attended were well-attended. Maybe you should be using the new social media to do things?

Why do you think I came to these conclusions? Through scientific experimentation of course. ...

Your experience is not the scientific method.

That is why I know if Hitler was a geniune good person, and tried to rally the people for good, he would never have ever been able to get so big a crowd. So I consider his accomplishments "cheating", taking the easy road, so to speak. Humans are evil by default.

And yet Martin Luther, Desmond Tutu, Nelson Mandela, Gandi, et al, garnered great crowds? Maybe its your delivery? Humans are neither 'evil' nor 'good' by default.

I believe the only one who has faux love for animals is you. If you really cared about the humans you would want justice for the animals, not sympathizing with the evil humans.

I care little about any of them other than that not caring makes life more complicated as the uncared for cause trouble in various ways.

Either way, you wanna help humans, you wanna help animals? Fat chance either way, theyve had their paths chosen for them. You ain't gonna have any luck.

Like I said, you are a defeatist and as such what you wish for definitely won't be occurring. I come from an old marxist background and some of their approaches were useful, so don't think you'll be seeing the revolution just know it'll occur as long as you act resolutely with others.

I blame this response on not really reading closely what was said. "yet martin luther gathered many crowds" If you read what was said...

I said they only gather if it's in their own best interest. Black people made their own rights. Trans people attempt to make their own rights but fail do you know why? Black people are 10 percent of the population, trans people are like 0.01% of the population. Gays are 10 percent of the population but their rights have been delayed because gays (and transgenders) like to infight amongst each other about petty things, half of them don't even support the idea of gay marriage, and have of them are closet homos like Anne Coulter and the reporters of Faux News.

Must be a generational thing as all the rallies I attended were well-attended.

What I think it was was the original thing I said before. Your hippie rights, black rights, drug-rights, anti-gov rights, all motivated by self-interest.

You say I have a defeatist attitude, but it's due to logic and scientific perspective. People's self-interest is to mindlessly eat meat, it tastes good to them and they say they get sick without it. So how do I rally people if it violates their self-interest? You say marxist techniques but I don't know what you refer to, the dictatorship is already in place, and unfortunately it's not ran by me.

Far as social media goes I've read the scientific data and it's inneffective, especially when the mods live in thirdworld countries, can't speak english, and sabotage everything you do.