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Re: ~ Life is a Dance of THREE Inseparable, Interwoven Force
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:28 pm
by mtmynd1
surreptitious57 wrote:If positive and negative and neutral are the components of every event would
the positive and negative not just cancel each other out and leave the neutral
There is of course matter and anti matter but they do not cancel out perfectly
Or else there would be no matter and no matter would then mean no Universe
does the duality inherent in our electricity, the positive and negative, work in harmony to produce that which we use worldwide every day, 24/7/365 ? If those two polar opposites were to "cancel each other out and leave the neutral", there would be no energy as we use it.
Re: ~ Life is a Dance of THREE Inseparable, Interwoven Force
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:20 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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Don't know if you are directing this post to me?
In your case above, the electricity produced as a result of the interactions of the two opposites would be the result; neutral aspect.
For this thread try not to think of neutral as nothing. Neutral is a metaphor as a force or manifestation.
I realize it is difficult, initially, to think in this way.
No worries.
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Re: ~ Life is a Dance of THREE Inseparable, Interwoven Force
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:53 pm
by mtmynd1
Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
Don't know if you are directing this post to me?
Not necessarily, but I'll accept it, Bill
For this thread try not to think of neutral as nothing. Neutral is a metaphor as a force or manifestation.
The point I was attempting to show was simply everything exists due to duality. 'Neutral' has it's opposite, (for the very reason the word exists), which may be any of several definitions (see antonym of 'neutral') depending upon it's usage.
Force or manifestation occurs from a counter action/reaction which indicates the dualities at play.
As this thread so clearly shows is based upon two "forces", e.g agreement and disagreement, for which debate exists as does the majority of communications.
Re: ~ Life is a Dance of THREE Inseparable, Interwoven Force
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:37 pm
by Arising_uk
Bill Wiltrack wrote:...
*LifeProTip: Each symbolic force is interchangeable. It will at one time be considered a positive force and in the next moment it could be considered a neutral or negative force in a new triangle of related force. .
*PhilosophyProTip: You've just contradicted what you said, i.e. if they are symbolic forces then they are not manifest and if they are interchangeable then your definitions of positive, negative and neutral are meaningless in application. Thank you for once again demonstrating the gnu in action.
Re: ~ Life is a Dance of THREE Inseparable, Interwoven Force
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:50 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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I think you should look closer at what you just stated.
A thing can be manifest and yet symbolic.
I don't think there is a contradiction there.
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Re: ~ Life is a Dance of THREE Inseparable, Interwoven Force
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:16 pm
by Ginkgo
Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
Think of it as forces. Manifest forces.
If you were weight lifting, the force you exert is the positive, the weight is the resistance or rather the negative force and the effect the lifting has upon the related muscles is the neutral manifestation.
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http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lever
Re: ~ Life is a Dance of THREE Inseparable, Interwoven Force
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:46 pm
by mtmynd1
Bill Wiltrack wrote:"... the lifting has upon the related muscles is the neutral manifestation.
What you refer to as "the neutral manifestation" as a goal with the weight lifting is to attain an opposite effect from the one prior to this exercise, hence a change from "neutral manifestation" to an "engaged manifestation" is
duality at play. It is an impossibility to not find (ignore) the "force" of yin/yang within every action not only we hu'mans participate in, but every action life.
Re: ~ Life is a Dance of THREE Inseparable, Interwoven Force
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:54 pm
by Ginkgo
mtmynd1 wrote:Bill Wiltrack wrote:"... the lifting has upon the related muscles is the neutral manifestation.
What you refer to as "the neutral manifestation" as a goal with the weight lifting is to attain an opposite effect from the one prior to this exercise, hence a change from "neutral manifestation" to an "engaged manifestation" is
duality at play. It is an impossibility to not find (ignore) the "force" of yin/yang within every action not only we hu'mans participate in, but every action life.
All of this can be explained in terms of Class 1, 2 or 3 levers.
Re: ~ Life is a Dance of THREE Inseparable, Interwoven Force
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:10 am
by Arising_uk
Bill Wiltrack wrote:.I think you should look closer at what you just stated.
A thing can be manifest and yet symbolic.
I don't think there is a contradiction there..
So what are they symbolic of?
If they are interchangeable what point the distinctions? Other than making you sound gnulike.
Re: ~ Life is a Dance of THREE Inseparable, Interwoven Force
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:32 am
by Bill Wiltrack
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As in; Affirming, Denying, Reconciling
Life progresses, time progresses, as a dance between these three forces.
You may only be able to perceive two forces at work. That's Okay. That is your being. That is your filter of the world.
No one, not even you can change your filter.
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Re: ~ Life is a Dance of THREE Inseparable, Interwoven Force
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:06 pm
by Arising_uk
Bill Wiltrack wrote:.As in; Affirming, Denying, Reconciling
Which one is which as you say they are interchangeable?
Life progresses, time progresses, as a dance between these three forces.
You may only be able to perceive two forces at work. That's Okay. That is your being. That is your filter of the world.
Unlike you I'm not trying to be a gnu and prefer Philosophy, so I leave what forces there are in the universe to Physics and have no need to make-up such a metaphysic to have a meaning in my life as I'm not an ex-theist in search of a replacement purpose. If I was to muck about with such stuff as trinities applied to ones life then I'd be spoilt for choice in Philosophy but would plump for Hegel as he liked thought and reason despite being an absolute idealist.
No one, not even you can change your filter.[/size].
Unlike you and thanks to NLP I actually know what my filters are and how to work with them. I also have Philosophy to put them in context.
Re: ~ Life is a Dance of THREE Inseparable, Interwoven Force
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:57 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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You sound happy...or at least content.
I'm not here to change you, or for that matter, anyone else here at the forum.
I see, philosophically, a trinity in everything.
If you are set in duality I'm fine with that.
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Re: ~ Life is a Dance of THREE Inseparable, Interwoven Force
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 5:07 pm
by mtmynd1
Bill Wiltrack wrote: I see, philosophically, a trinity in everything.
If you are set in duality I'm fine with that.
Interesting that you use "philosophically" a trinity in everything, but exclude "philosophically" and switch "see" to "set" in duality.
Personally, I can't agree with your statement as you wrote it, however I do agree with my changes.
Now, Bill, we can both be "fine with that", eh?
Re: ~ Life is a Dance of THREE Inseparable, Interwoven Force
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:26 pm
by Bill Wiltrack
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However you interpret what I have posted is fine.
...matter of fact, it couldn't be any other way.
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Re: ~ Life is a Dance of THREE Inseparable, Interwoven Force
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:09 pm
by mtmynd1
Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
However you interpret what I have posted is fine.
...matter of fact, it couldn't be any other way.
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Everything is perfect just as it is." - attributed to a Zen monk.