Only if that's what you want? As if it is that's what you'll get I guess.Gary Childress wrote:...
Here I am. Bored almost to tears and yet this seems to be the pinnacle of existence. For me, Gary Childress, this is perhaps as good as it gets...
No Bill, many are open and honest with you but because you are a nihilistic narcissist you cannot accept what they say as being honest and have to think they dishonest as you only accept those that reinforce yourself. Hence what you've just said above.Bill Wiltrack wrote:.Number one, I would like to thank the original poster of this thread for being so open & honest. That is rare here upon this forum.
And yet you also say your thoughts are not yours and loudly proclaim others should follow your actions if they wish to be 'true philosophers'?Second, I want to say I have recently felt EXACTLY as you do now. Matter of fact, I often would use the phrase, every thought I have is wrong. Everything I do is incorrect.
But apparently Gary's didn't?Don't know what to say after that. Words fail...Words always fail.
What is a "mid-life crisis" as I always hear it called. Is it just "part of being human" or is something actually realized?Arising_uk wrote:Only if that's what you want? As if it is that's what you'll get I guess.Gary Childress wrote:...
Here I am. Bored almost to tears and yet this seems to be the pinnacle of existence. For me, Gary Childress, this is perhaps as good as it gets...
Sounds like you're having a mid-life, take it as an opportunity.
Once more with the gnuspeak and once more confusion and befuddlement is its aim as the underlying aim is to make oneself a gnu. So "consciousness' IS an intellectual function Bill, it IS a mental function, it IS to be a subject aware of objects and self. So what do you mean by this 'pure consciousness' as opposed to "consciousness"? What is this 'REAL philosophy' that you say takes place and which you cannot name but do and cannot describe but keep doing so, that you cannot achieve but keep striving for? As a goal with no meaning is a fruitless one, no wonder you self-medicate and physically flagellate yourself as you have yet to address your lost faith in any real sense.Bill Wiltrack wrote:.I meant that, in the end...after all is said & done, words fail. Pure consciousness envelops our entire intellectual function. That is the point, where I believe, REAL philosophy takes place.
Which I do, shame you cannot.As far as honesty upon this forum, I have said too many times before; Start with the truth stay with the truth - as best you can upon this forum with the written word.
This forum does not lack, what it often does have is a surfeit of gnus who make no attempt to read or understand what anglo-american and continental philosophy has said and thought, as such the content is often one long metaphysical existential angst-fest of those who have not a fucking clue and wish others to join with them in their woe.IT is nothing short of hilarious that individuals can come here, hide behind a false moniker even BEFORE they utter a single word - AND THEN have the temerity to say this forum is lacking in some way; is lacking in credibility; is lacking in content; is lacking in civility.
The whole www html specification was wrong from the get-go, Ted Nelsons Xanadu was the way forward.A joke. A complete fucking joke - right from the rip.
Once again you equate your feelings as the truth, they are not.To all of you who do this = If you were able to feel shame, you would.
And as usual you know wrongly and to top it off ignore what I've told you before, so once again, for many a year here I had no avatar, the one I have now was the result of a Facebook fad that I erroneously joined, i.e. post your fav cartoon character as an avatar, which lead to me posting it here for a laugh, then I realised that such as you assume that there is a 'deep' psychological meaning or need behind such things and took the opportunity to try and attack me with psycho-babble and insults about the image, which I just found hysterically funny and enjoyed watching the puerile antics, as such I find myself stubbornly keeping it long past the date I would have as I find it more revealing about the other than myself, I could just have easily chosen Tom, Sylvester, the Coyote, et al.But I know, all too well, all you will do is sit there and defend cartoon character that you think you represent.
I do, because unlike you, I know where I am, why I am, what I am and why I've earned it. Not saying its good mind, just that it is what and why it is.Good on you. You actually belong right where you are. You deserve right what you are.
I think it just a part of being mortal, although it differs between cultures and gender I think. So 'western' women appear to get it a decade earlier and in many cases its tied to motherhood and lost looks, whereas the male tends to get it just after the mid-point of the three score years and ten. It appears to be a kind of pausing-point, a time to reflect upon whats gone and depending upon the assessment maybe bemoan that whats past is past with a fear that there is too short a time left to change. I think this is an error as 'life' appears to be a little like an LSD trip, if you start getting a bad one then just change the place, move, alter the situation and on the whole the change does its job and wham! A new rich and its all business again. Change can be difficult as habituation is safe but I think it easily possible if one sets oneself clear aims and outcomes, i.e. decide what one wants and attempt it. As the song goes,Gary Childress wrote:What is a "mid-life crisis" as I always hear it called. Is it just "part of being human" or is something actually realized?
How about this? Instead of always being "wrong" I would like to be "right" more often. Instead of making so many errors in life I would like to make less of them. Instead of all the depressing truths I hear around me (things like "singularities", the end of the human species, etc.) I would like to discover wonderful truths that make a person joyful. Instead of picking up the newspaper and reading that Israel is "mowing the lawn" by attacking Gaza or Hamas is killing some poor innocent teenager, I would like to pick up the newspaper and hear that there is world peace. Are you perhaps a "genie"? Can you grant me these wishes? And if these wishes are granted, will I eventually "regret them" in the end?Arising_uk wrote:I think it just a part of being mortal, although it differs between cultures and gender I think. So 'western' women appear to get it a decade earlier and in many cases its tied to motherhood and lost looks, whereas the male tends to get it just after the mid-point of the three score years and ten. It appears to be a kind of pausing-point, a time to reflect upon whats gone and depending upon the assessment maybe bemoan that whats past is past with a fear that there is too short a time left to change. I think this is an error as 'life' appears to be a little like an LSD trip, if you start getting a bad one then just change the place, move, alter the situation and on the whole the change does its job and wham! A new rich and its all business again. Change can be difficult as habituation is safe but I think it easily possible if one sets oneself clear aims and outcomes, i.e. decide what one wants and attempt it. As the song goes,Gary Childress wrote:What is a "mid-life crisis" as I always hear it called. Is it just "part of being human" or is something actually realized?
"... You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometime you find
You get what you need...", trite but apt I think.
So in your case, why not try and embark upon parenthood? Thats a game changer if ever there was one. Barring that, 'What do you want?'
All the best, a_uk.
A couple of questions;Gary Childress wrote:How about this? Instead of always being "wrong" I would like to be "right" more often. ...
A few more questions if you would;Instead of making so many errors in life I would like to make less of them.
What would you consider to be such a wonderful truth?Instead of all the depressing truths I hear around me (things like "singularities", the end of the human species, etc.) I would like to discover wonderful truths that make a person joyful.
No, only you can do such things.Instead of picking up the newspaper and reading that Israel is "mowing the lawn" by attacking Gaza or Hamas is killing some poor innocent teenager, I would like to pick up the newspaper and hear that there is world peace. Are you perhaps a "genie"? Can you grant me these wishes?
Depends upon whether you've really thought them through.And if these wishes are granted, will I eventually "regret them" in the end?
Ah, now we are getting somewhere. Are the wishes above NOT good wishes? What is there to "think through" about wanting to be "right" wanting to make less "errors", wanting better "truths", wanting "world peace?"Arising_uk wrote:Depends upon whether you've really thought them through.
How will you go about doing this?Gary Childress wrote:Is it too late to add to my list of "wants"? I don't know how many wishes I get but I would like for honeybees to stop dying off. ...
How will you go about doing this?I would like to see a little less concrete on the surface of the earth and a little more plants and wildlife AND at the same time I would like to see humans flourish as well (generally by having just enough kids to either keep population at its current level or maybe even allow for a bit of a decrease).
Whats stopping you?I would like a job where I feel like I am actually helping others and not simply preying on them for my pay check.
How will you go about achieving them?These are my humble wants.
No idea? They are your wishes, do you wish bad wishes for yourself?Gary Childress wrote:Ah, now we are getting somewhere. Are the wishes above NOT good wishes?
What would be being right be to you?What is there to "think through" about wanting to be "right" wanting to make less "errors", wanting better "truths", wanting "world peace?"
How would you know that you were right to want these things?What is there to "think through" about those things? I want to be sure I am "right" to want those things and that it will not be an "error" to wish for them.
I don't know? How does one ensure that one is "right"? How does one know one is not making an error? How does one get rid of truths such as "singularities", the end of the human species, a "dying planet" etc. How does one achieve world peace when the rest of the world clearly does not wish to cooperate? Should I become dictator of Earth and force people to cooperate?Arising_uk wrote:
How will you go about achieving them?
I honestly don't know. How would you go about being "right" when everything seems like the "wrong" choice? How would you go about making fewer "errors" (assuming "errors" are not made intentionally). How would you change the "truth"? How would you achieve world peace. I'm stumped...Any advice?What could you do to achieve them?
They would do nothing for me. Should I be "selfish" and only concerned for myself?What would achieving them do for you?
You asked me several posts ago what I "wanted". I simply told you some of the things I want. All you've given me in return are more questions to answer.Arising_uk wrote:No idea? They are your wishes, do you wish bad wishes for yourself?Gary Childress wrote:Ah, now we are getting somewhere. Are the wishes above NOT good wishes?What would be being right be to you?What is there to "think through" about wanting to be "right" wanting to make less "errors", wanting better "truths", wanting "world peace?"
What would being right do for you?
How would you know when you are right?
Which errors do you wish to make less of?
What is stopping you from achieving your wants?
If you got all your wants would there be any thing else that you would want or would there be any consequences you wouldn't want?
This is thinking it through.How would you know that you were right to want these things?What is there to "think through" about those things? I want to be sure I am "right" to want those things and that it will not be an "error" to wish for them.
How would you know it was an error to want such things?
Take a creative guess, as they are your wants supposedly.Gary Childress wrote:I don't know?
For myself, I have a feeling in my stomach, a kind of queasiness, a tension in my muscles and I hear a voice saying that this may be an error.How does one know one is not making an error?
Not sure one can ensure such a thing but how does one know when something is right for them? For myself its the absence of the above and I have a clear image of what I'm thoughting about, my body feels in balance and I want to boogie, and the words to describe what I'm thoughting come easily to my thinking voice. I also make the intent a positive one.How does one ensure that one is "right"?
What truths are these? What do you mean by "singularities"? Black Holes? Fear not, the probability is you'll be long dead before you encounter such a thing. Is the end of the human species a truth? The planet won't die? It'll be here for a very long time.How does one get rid of truths such as "singularities", the end of the human species, a "dying planet" etc. ...
Sure if thats what you think it'll take. Personally I'd start with little steps and get involved with organisations promoting just such a thing.How does one achieve world peace when the rest of the world clearly does not wish to cooperate? Should I become dictator of Earth and force people to cooperate?
Take a creative guess.I honestly don't know. ...
I'd change my choices.How would you go about being "right" when everything seems like the "wrong" choice?
I'd understand that errors are feedback and not failures and learn from them so as to not keep repeating the same ones.How would you go about making fewer "errors" (assuming "errors" are not made intentionally).
What is the "truth" for you?How would you change the "truth"?
Sure, invent a cheap, clean power source or develop the nano-tech cornucopia machine or become a diplomat/negotiator and work in conflict resolution or become an ethical politician and win elections. Barring that I'd take a more realistic approach to my goals and examine what it is I really want. If it is 'world peace' then I'd start with baby-steps and see where they go.How would you achieve world peace. I'm stumped...Any advice?
Is this what you want? If not then I think self-interest not the same as being selfish and without self-interest there is very little motivation to do anything, so if all of the things you say you want would do nothing for you then why want them? Unless of course you are claiming altruism but then there'd be no problem in acting I'd have thought?They would do nothing for me. Should I be "selfish" and only concerned for myself?