Trust Those That Seek the Truth...

[SpheresOfBalance]

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...doubt those that say they've found it.
Until you've checked that it speaks 'for' 'everyone,' then scrutinize some more, etc, etc, etc, ad infinitum.






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Truth isn't found in a book.
Rather, truth isn't necessarily found in any particular book.


Truth isn't an experience of some thing outside of the body.
Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't!

Truth is within.
Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't!


Truth is experienced within a moment,
It can be, while also being calculated after much scrutiny.


...if you turn yourself inside-out AND, you are extremely lucky.
Yes being truly objective, is key!


A moment that becomes eternity.
A moment remembered in eternity, hopefully. If it be real, (of the physics of the universe.)


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Be warned many see it otherwise so they don't have to answer to anyone or anything, so they can use and abuse, walking away feeling no guilt! This then is why men fight and kill!


To demonstrate, you said:

Truth is within.

Example: One sees that the "truth within is" that all should perish, as they ignite all the nuclear weapons at the exact time, covering the entire world, equidistantly placed, thus insuring all perish.

Then a Question: Was the "Truth Within" them?


Absolute proof that the "truth" is not necessarily contained "within" any particular individual, or group. Do we not 'all' agree, except maybe for the one that would ignite those nucs?

[Blaggard]

Trust no 1.

There's always going to be someone who tells you how to think what to think and in what way you should think. But they are just pace holders for better people, they've wasted their life doing nothing more than being a predictable pleb and a scab on anything that means anything to anyone, they somehow think they can tell people how to think. Anyone who tells you anything about anything that matters will tell you, one thing and one thing alone:

"There's only one way of life and that's your own."

Anyone who hasn't realised that yet well, trust no 1.

It's your life live it, if some wallnut tells you it isn't then tell them to get bent. You live your life, the waste of space people who think they have all the answers just wasted theirs. Boring mushrooms, they are. We know it you know it, tell you what, next person who tells you how and what you must do ever to live in the world. Tell them why they have to tell people what to do and how to live, and I think you'll find it's because they are control freaks who just can't get over the fact that everyone is different.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Trust no 1.

There's always going to be someone who tells you how to think what to think and in what way you should think. But they are just pace holders for better people, they've wasted their life doing nothing more than being a predictable pleb and a scab on anything that means anything to anyone, they somehow think they can tell people how to think. Anyone who tells you anything about anything that matters will tell you, one thing and one thing alone:

"There's only one way of life and that's your own."

Anyone who hasn't realised that yet well, trust no 1.

It's your life live it, if some wallnut tells you it isn't then tell them to get bent. You live your life, the waste of space people who think they have all the answers just wasted theirs. Boring mushrooms, they are. We know it you know it, tell you what, next person who tells you how and what you must do ever to live in the world. Tell them why they have to tell people what to do and how to live, and I think you'll find it's because they are control freaks who just can't get over the fact that everyone is different.

Some are just spoiled children!

[SpheresOfBalance]

The Truth 'always' considers everything, and everyone, as everyone has just as much right to an unhindered life, by those that may tread on others, as anyone else, so one must consider all possible perspectives, anything less is just one's selfishness, and can kill or get one killed. Thus the truth is not always contained in ones mind. As there are some very warped minds. I can name a few.

One could of course say that truth exists in ones mind 'only' where they consider all others rights to an equal life, while one ensures they have it.
For instance I'm getting old, and in my current condition cannot go a few rounds, such that I have a conceal and carry permit, to carry my military issue, colt 45, ACP, semi automatic, anti personnel, handgun, such that if some younger and/or stronger individual threatens/assaults me or my family, I shall warn them that if they proceed they may end up dead, and if they persist, in order to defend my family, I shall shoot them, and I am a sharpshooter.

The truth is not necessarily contained in ones mind, but it can be!

[thedoc]

The truth is not necessarily contained in ones mind, but it can be!

What truth do you know, that is not contained in your mind?

[SpheresOfBalance]

The truth is not necessarily contained in ones mind, but it can be!

What truth do you know, that is not contained in your mind?

Those that bombed those Boston runners, believed that truth was contained in their minds, as well as those that killed all those children in that elementary school, then there,'s Columbine. Just to name a few, again the Truth is that:

One can "only" say that truth exists in ones mind, where they consider all others rights to a free and equal life, while one ensures they have it, thus truth is conditional, not based only upon ones self centered whims, PERIOD!

To make such a blanket statement, a generalization, as Bill did, lends to people that kill as I've mentioned above. The truth of men can only be contained in ones mind, if, and only if, they consider all perspectives, outside themselves, as it pertains to other men's rights, thus it is not necessarily contained in any particular mans mind, though it may be. It is in fact conditional, upon things/concepts sometimes outside of ones mind.

As a matter of fact, "all" that is currently in "all" men's minds was outside of their minds, only to be found in books, and stories, either written or told by the men that came before. Make no mistake these concepts and rules are outside an infants mind, until they are placed in their minds, by the teachers, of our civilization.

Clearly then, truth is out there, to be found in the minds/books of others, the culmination of thousands of years of men thinking and deciding what is best for all, lest we have no civilization, only anarchy, which usually leaves many dead. Truth??? I think not!

Bills blanket statement, without external conditionals, that which civilization demands, lends to anarchy, terrorism, and murder, pure and simple! And contained within that, there is no necessary truth, universally speaking, of course.

To believe truth is only necessarily in one's mind, is the beginning of the voyage to megalomania!

As Socrates said, in all truth, 'I only know that I know nothing.'

[thedoc]

The truth is not necessarily contained in ones mind, but it can be!

What truth do you know, that is not contained in your mind?

To believe truth is only necessarily in one's mind, is the beginning of the voyage to megalomania!

I was asking about truth "that you know" and said nothing about the truth that others may know or believe, and did not indicate that truth is exclusive to any one person. It is a common mistake to read a post and infer what is not there, it indicates that you are reading with a strong set of biases and preconceived notions of what I will post. You have gone off onto a tangent that is totally unjustified, but unfortunately the practice is common on forums, it makes it easier to pick a fight over nothing.

[SpheresOfBalance]

The truth is not necessarily contained in ones mind, but it can be!

What truth do you know, that is not contained in your mind?

To believe truth is only necessarily in one's mind, is the beginning of the voyage to megalomania!

I was asking about truth "that you know" and said nothing about the truth that others may know or believe, and did not indicate that truth is exclusive to any one person. It is a common mistake to read a post and infer what is not there, it indicates that you are reading with a strong set of biases and preconceived notions of what I will post. You have gone off onto a tangent that is totally unjustified, but unfortunately the practice is common on forums, it makes it easier to pick a fight over nothing.

No it's not, it's an argument. SO SAYS UNIVERSITIES ACROSS THE GLOBE! And it is in fact RESPECTED, by those that are indeed educated, despite those that think otherwise!

Your question was invalid, as the truth is that:

"All" that is currently in "all" men's minds, truth or otherwise, was outside their minds, only to be found in books, and stories, either written or told by the men that came before. The truth is that all knowledge is placed in every ones minds, by the teachers, of our civilization.

To believe truth is only necessarily in one's mind, is the beginning of the voyage to megalomania!

As Socrates said, in all truth, 'I only know that I know nothing.'

And that's the "truth" of it, period!

Thanks doc, I appreciate the go round! until next time, seriously!

[SpheresOfBalance]

Actually, Bills thread "title" speaks truly of truth, though I would modify it slightly, to be more correct as follows:

"One can probably trust those that forever seek the truth."

Yes, that covers it all?

Agree, yes/no? Please supply valid argument, either way.

[SpheresOfBalance]

The truth is not necessarily contained in ones mind, but it can be!

What truth do you know, that is not contained in your mind?

Doc the fact that ones mind contains 'some' truths, does not necessitate that 'all' truths are contained within that mind, as some truths may not be uncovered by that mind yet. Which is in fact my point. Truths are in fact "out there," where out there is simply those that are not yet understood; contained within any particular mind.