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We are men who failed to protect a vulnerable woman from harm; a vulnerable woman with her unborn child inside her.

This is ultimately about our sense of masculinity. We see ourselves as protectors of the sacred and the vulnerable.. and we failed at that duty. The rage is turned inward towards aimed at our own failure. We don't hate the perpetrator as much as we hate ourselves for letting the woman down.

"I am a man. I am on this earth to protect you from evil and protect you from harm. And I failed you. I failed myself. I failed my duty."

This is the source of our rage. We feel like if we turn the volume up high enough on our revenge, we can somehow make up for our failure. We can cover up the failure which is the true source of our pain.

Hell was never real.

Hell is a projection of our psychological need for revenge. We believe that the cosmos-universe somehow OWES us emotional closure in this regard. Then we further believe that the cosmos-universe will deliver on what it OWES us.

Kuznetzova wrote:Hell was never real.

Hell is a projection of our psychological need for revenge. We believe that the cosmos-universe somehow OWES us emotional closure in this regard. Then we further believe that the cosmos-universe will deliver on what it OWES us.

Yes, we're a sad, sad bunch, indeed, and in deed as well!

Skip wrote:

tbieter wrote:So you don't believe in a Hell or an ultimate Justice? Why not just say so directly?

I don't believe in ultimate anything, including justice, but I think we could try a little harder to approximate some consistent application of it.
The hell idea is just silly.

You should believe in Ouzo, the ultimate game, as described in "The Ouzo Prophecy," but beyond that, hell is merely an allegorical concept as expressed in the book of Revelation, and justice isn't mentioned at all.

didnt Emmanuel Kant write something to the effect that eternal punishment in hell is manifestly unjust, while a temporary punishment can always be dismissed as 'oh well I will just have to endure it'?

so this is another one of his antimonies - unresolvable in the world of sense

Kayla wrote:so this is another one of his antimonies - unresolvable in the world of sense

an·ti·mo·ny [an-tuh-moh-nee]
noun Chemistry
a brittle, lustrous, white metallic element occurring in nature free or combined, used chiefly in alloys and in compounds in medicine. Symbol: Sb; atomic number: 51; atomic weight: 121.75.

antinomy

i blame autocorrect

Ofc Hell exists, else Heaven would be overflowed with rapists, child molestors, serial killers, and what not.

Simple logic!

People who talk about heaven and hell as actual places are moronic beyond belief.