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Re: am i write in thinking a photon has no mass

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:08 pm
by jackles
blag are you a pro physist or somethin.

Re: am i write in thinking a photon has no mass

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:08 pm
by Blaggard
jackles wrote:blag are you a pro physist or somethin.
I am studying it and no I am anti science pro evidence, as all good Scientists should be by default, it comes with the territory. :P

"Science is but one death after another."

Niels Bohr. ;)

To put it simply if you want to win acclaim in science agreeing with everyone is by far and a way the worst option, destroy a closely held theory and you are assured tenure and a Nobel prize, it's even better than creating your own theory. I'd use Einstein as an example but methinks there was some racism going on there, hence why he only got one Nobel prize. Bohr, Heisenburg, Pauli, Dirac, Curie et al will have to do as examples of old guard smashers, those guys were stupendoulsy smart, hell they even destroyed Eisntein and Schrödinger's arguments at the Solvey conferences as well as various papers, that contended with quantum mechanics. ;) :)

"My only regret is that I wont be alive to see the demise of quantum mechanics."

Erwin Schrödinger.

A true scientist if ever their was one. :P

Re: am i write in thinking a photon has no mass

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:20 pm
by Ginkgo
Hi blaggard,

I think jackles might be alluding to something roughly like this.

http://www.quantumconsciousness.org/pen ... ation.html

Re: am i write in thinking a photon has no mass

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:37 pm
by jackles
thanks for that referance ginkgo.yes its what i am trying to put across but its also on larger scale black hole indisinguishability.what seems to be many different black hole locations is one limitless black hole and we are in side it giving the impression of seperate black hole locations to us as observers.

Re: am i write in thinking a photon has no mass

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:03 am
by HexHammer
Blaggard wrote:Mind you it was thought that neutrinos had to be massless, and turns out they were wrong about that, they have mass and what's even odder is they only have left handed spin, but that's another topic altogether. :)
There are a lot of supersticion in physics, too many believe too much in the numbers and forget about plain logic.

Re: am i write in thinking a photon has no mass

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:05 am
by jackles
hex you remind me of me.ha

Re: am i write in thinking a photon has no mass

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:51 am
by Blaggard
HexHammer wrote:
Blaggard wrote:Mind you it was thought that neutrinos had to be massless, and turns out they were wrong about that, they have mass and what's even odder is they only have left handed spin, but that's another topic altogether. :)
There are a lot of supersticion in physics, too many believe too much in the numbers and forget about plain logic.
Such as?

Well human beings are flawed, hence science is flawed, but then it never claimed it was right, just that it was as right as it could be given the evidence.

Re: am i write in thinking a photon has no mass

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:32 pm
by HexHammer
Blaggard wrote:Such as?

Well human beings are flawed, hence science is flawed, but then it never claimed it was right, just that it was as right as it could be given the evidence.
The Heisenberg Uncertainty, had a discussion with some danish physicists that claimed there was no such thing as Super Strings, virtual particles that blink in and out of existance, etc.

Re: am i write in thinking a photon has no mass

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:43 pm
by Blaggard
HexHammer wrote:
Blaggard wrote:Such as?

Well human beings are flawed, hence science is flawed, but then it never claimed it was right, just that it was as right as it could be given the evidence.
The Heisenberg Uncertainty, had a discussion with some danish physicists that claimed there was no such thing as Super Strings, virtual particles that blink in and out of existance, etc.

Really how do they explain the Casimir effect, or the Lamb shift, clearly there is something going on if you want to call it a wave like property that exerts a force on a plate in the case of the Casimir effect, or magic is your look out, but energy concerns need a correlating carrier particle so the vacuum energy is explained as energy never being zero at any point in space allowing the creation of virtual particles, which are as real as any other particle. String theory is nonsense if you ask me so you will get no argument from me.

Re: am i write in thinking a photon has no mass

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:34 pm
by HexHammer
Blaggard wrote:Really how do they explain the Casimir effect, or the Lamb shift, clearly there is something going on if you want to call it a wave like property that exerts a force on a plate in the case of the Casimir effect, or magic is your look out, but energy concerns need a correlating carrier particle so the vacuum energy is explained as energy never being zero at any point in space allowing the creation of virtual particles, which are as real as any other particle. String theory is nonsense if you ask me so you will get no argument from me.
I honestly dunno about String Theory, but I'm certain that there something that is very very tiny, that can form virtual particles.