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Re: rome

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:28 pm
by jackles
as seen in terms of systems it was that roman system of government free but social that got man to the moon.it was a giant leep in nature .human roman and christian.

Re: rome

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:29 pm
by bobevenson
jackles wrote:as seen in terms of systems it was that roman system of government free but social that got man to the moon.it was a giant leep in nature .human roman and christian.
Could you be more specific in what the Roman system of government factors were that enabled Americans to reach the moon?

Re: rome

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:49 pm
by jackles
well bob without rome i dont think man could have reached the moon.it just would not have happened.so going to the moon is a direct result of the roman system through 2000 years of influence .its the planitary system and in the end all countries will comform to it.

Re: rome

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:08 am
by bobevenson
jackles wrote:well bob without rome i dont think man could have reached the moon.it just would not have happened.so going to the moon is a direct result of the roman system through 2000 years of influence .its the planitary system and in the end all countries will comform to it.
Are you saying that if Rome never existed, nobody would have ever reached the moon? If so, what other accomplishments we take for granted would never have happened?

Re: rome

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:49 am
by thedoc
bobevenson wrote:
jackles wrote:well bob without rome i dont think man could have reached the moon.it just would not have happened.so going to the moon is a direct result of the roman system through 2000 years of influence .its the planitary system and in the end all countries will comform to it.
Are you saying that if Rome never existed, nobody would have ever reached the moon? If so, what other accomplishments we take for granted would never have happened?
There are some who say that without certain events that resulted in the repression of much technical knowledge, man could have been on the moon a thousand years, or more, earlier. Thank the Greek Mystery cults for sequestering knowledge as only to be given to those worthy to receive it.

Re: rome

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:04 am
by jackles
this forum thedoc we are romanised just by being on this forum talking.

Re: rome

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:19 pm
by Arising_uk
jackles wrote:it was the roman type of government and tax system that got man to the moon and safely back again.thus proving that it the roman system in evolutionary terms is a planitary system worthy of the name.
Not at all! The Roman system of govt and taxation has no relationship to America, other than their fantasy of Pax Americana.

Re: rome

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:45 pm
by jackles
?.but thats not logical arising.logic says that it rome/christian created the conditions to get man to the moon.jfk s a good example of a roman.if i ever did see one.rome the system of government never did fall it just changed form and name.rome is a system not a name.that system manifested its self under different guises.the british empire being one of them taking christianity to the globe.planitary religion befitting the solar system.

Re: rome

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:28 am
by Arising_uk
jackles wrote:?.but thats not logical arising.logic says that it rome/christian created the conditions to get man to the moon.jfk s a good example of a roman.if i ever did see one.
On this 'logic' we got to the moon thanks to the primate who decided stand. You are arbitrarily selecting a time that suits you to fit your beliefs. We could say that it if wasn't for the Indians and Arabs we'd never have got to the Moon.

Re: rome

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:03 am
by jackles
the course of history is like a river the way i see it.rome is the main current in that river.there are other currents but roman system is the main stay of the river.so the tributaries are important but in the end theres one river.its called rome.

Re: rome

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:11 am
by Arising_uk
This is called a Eurocentric view of History.

Re: rome

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:58 am
by jackles
from a rest of the world piont of veiw.it looks egosentic but i reckon its the truth.

Re: rome

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:02 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
jackles wrote:Is the world becoming slowly but surely one way or another.romanised.The white house has roman archetecture for roman government .the very word government is roman.so are we set for a world roman system. Was the roman system the most conveinent to evolution.
No. Completely wrong. The world is Grecian. Rome based all it's architecture on the Greek forms. Ionic, Doric, and Corinthian capitals, and columns, pediments, and based. All are of Greek origin and modern (in the last 300 years) have based their designs on examples from the Parthenon in Athens and many other original Greek examples.

None of this has much to do with evolution, in which you mention shows a distinct lack of appreciation of the concept.

Re: rome

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:04 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Arising_uk wrote:
jackles wrote:Is the world becoming slowly but surely one way or another.romanised.The white house has roman archetecture for roman government .the very word government is roman.so are we set for a world roman system. Was the roman system the most conveinent to evolution.
The Pax Romana has been the template, aspiration and admiration of Western Govts since it fell. Nothing amazing here.

It has bugger all to do with evolution(a much abused term).
I think you mean the Lex Romana?

Re: rome

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:07 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
jackles wrote:I would argue that the british empire amongst others was just an evolvment of the roman system certainly as reguards religion.
I think several English Kings existing long before the "Empire" would disagree entirely.
Henry VIII had severe arguments with Rome. And was excommunicated.
His daughter Elizabeth I, who ushered in the first steps to Empire, as such Was a Protestant.
Thereafter all significant steps in the growth of the British Empire were determined by Protestant ethics.
Catholic Empires, such as Spain had to take a back seat.