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Bill Wiltrack wrote:.



Absolutely. The brain acts as a whole.


Both sides work at the same time.


Left brain/right brain is a symbolic classification of brain functions.

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As G Carlin once said.. and i only agree with him rarely..

Sumbols..
Are for the 'symbol minded'

Bill Wiltrack wrote:I see you.

Peek-a-boo!

I understand you and its not a pretty sight.

One day you will see. All is just.

Return to your faith. But I'll think of you as a weird Panglossian from now on.

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Directed consciousness is displayed within each of your posts. Left-brain thinking.

Always looking. Always attacking. Never being able to be still. Not knowing what self-consciousness is.


Never having a drive towards self-reflecting.


Not knowing a path.





I hope that answers that for you. Please accept my answer and let this be for a while. Hold onto my words...





On the other hand; How long have you been boring?


Does that personality trait strike you when you attempt to be self-reflective or philosophical?






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I have the feeling with you that things just don't fit. You want to be at peace. You want to be philosophical. You just never found a path or made the necessary commitment when you were young.



No need to respond. Just my intuition about you.


Again, I like you. I see who you are.




One day you might see that you have to let go of one thing before you are able to reach for another.




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*Yawn* Deja tre.

So far this 'clear consciousness' appears to be a process of massive self-avoidance, i.e. a complete failure to address others questions about one's thoughts and statements. That it involves using cod-psychology to do so shows to me that this 'clear consciousness' is also a delusional one.

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............................................................I've known for years that resentments don't hurt the person we resent, but they do hurt us.
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Bill Wiltrack wrote:I've known for years that resentments don't hurt the person we resent, but they do hurt us.
~~~ Anne Lamott ~~~

Why would you think I "resent" you Bill? What I think about you is not such a strong feeling.

Arising_uk wrote:*Yawn* Deja tre.

So far this 'clear consciousness' appears to be a process of massive self-avoidance, i.e. a complete failure to address others questions about one's thoughts and statements. That it involves using cod-psychology to do so shows to me that this 'clear consciousness' is also a delusional one.

Foghorm agree.

Yes many including you and i. Avoid the roots of our questions and answers.
i have a place where certain q&a does not go.. but that is but 10% .'all else is open season.
who would you kill 1st? [if LAW went away]
'clear consciousness' is a load of crap.

Darwin was spot on

......you've been flailing about all your life trying to recreate an experience from your youth. Now I've told you how you could have this again as your understanding of that 'fear' in your past is what's blocking you

Bill, what was that experience again? would you mind describing it once more please.

reasonvemotion wrote:

......you've been flailing about all your life trying to recreate an experience from your youth. Now I've told you how you could have this again as your understanding of that 'fear' in your past is what's blocking you

Bill, what was that experience again? would you mind describing it once more please.

RvE

It could have been very bad. not something"to recreate an experience from your youth"
Uncle bob and his attention to your butthole.

I onother hand never had uncle bob. in myroom alone for 9 years till i was allowed a bike and friends.
[by aged 8i was reading G orwell and Schopenhauer]

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The experience is the most incredible thing that has ever happened in my life.



There is no way I could describe the actual experience itself.








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For me, the experience was brought on by an intense application of a philosophical discipline.




The experience seemed to be brought-on by an intense but gradual change in my consciousness; the way I perceived myself.






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for me it was the 1st hand experience.
for near an hour i lay in semi coma.
My pj;s full of gods little 'good' Spirochaetes.

A year latter at age 11. I had 3 Gfriends .
aspies rule.
"Hey im really good at balancing marbles on my tongue.......Want to try it?

no fear

The experience seemed to be brought-on by an intense but gradual change in my consciousness; the way I perceived myself.

Are you referring to Individuation?

Prill

no fear

are the most formidable words of your post.

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No. I'm not referring to individualization.


I thought Individuation happens when you are about 8 year old?


This was again, a developed dramatic change of consciousness.


Almost like no-self in the way we normally relate to self.


A feeling of being alive.



It seemed like a taste of another dimension.










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Sorry bill but I agree that most if not all of what you post here is mainly new age BS, meant to seem enlightening but actually devoid of any meaning or usefulness, followed by much wasted post space, a few full stops and a strange and usually completely unrelated picture or off putting gif. If you expect anything more than to be ignored or even berated for such useless posts you are expecting too much.

What you need to do is to state, in plain English, what it is you are proposing this thread is about. Please define clear consciousness for starters and we can go from there.

If you are referring to consciousness in the sense of the "bringing to light of a certain idea" then please use that term or something else, but don't use the term consciousness, which as most philosophers and neuroscientists would describe as "subjective experience".

Your vagueness is neither enlightening nor helpful. Language is a tool when it comes to philosophy, and unfortunately you are using a hammer when you should be using a fine chisel.