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Re: Christianity

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 7:40 pm
by Harbal
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 7:35 pm
Harbal wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 4:51 pmI didn't ask to be a brainless dolt, Alexis, just as I'm sure you never asked to be a self important, pretentious twat. We must play the cards we are dealt.
I did ask -- no I worked hard to be! -- a self-important twat of the first order. I studied, I practiced, I set it as my life's object and I attained it!
Credit where it's due; congrats. 👍

Re: Christianity

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 8:12 pm
by Alexis Jacobi
Harbal wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 7:40 pm Credit where it's due; congrats. 👍
Thank you.

Finally! Some recognition!

Re: Christianity

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 9:53 pm
by iambiguous
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 3:28 pm Now the ignorant man shows himself a willful fool.

The termite-idiot mistakes the sort of recommendations I make as deriving from my person and as contrived personally, as if this has to do with my personal will or intentionality.

This attitude is quintessentially that of the rebellious mass-man. A man who is actually a child.

I knew it! I knew he was Satyr!!


Now all of us know it!!!

Although I must admit that he has managed to remain quite constrained here. 8)

Re: Christianity

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 10:56 pm
by Alexis Jacobi
iambiguous wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 9:53 pm I knew it! I knew he was Satyr!!
Busted!

Re: Christianity

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 1:02 am
by attofishpi
Is this the thread where people with absolutely no personal experience of interactions with God and most of them being atheists, get to blab on and on about books they have read...about God!?

:P

Re: Christianity

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 1:39 am
by henry quirk
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 10:56 pm
iambiguous wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 9:53 pm I knew it! I knew he was Satyr!!
Busted!
Really?

Well, color me...
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...surprised.

Re: Christianity

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 1:42 am
by henry quirk
attofishpi wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 1:02 am Is this the thread where people with absolutely no personal experience of interactions with God and most of them being atheists, get to blab on and on about books they have read...about God!?

:P
Yes, among other self-aggrandizements and 'protest too much'-isms of the closeted and utterly soul-frightened theists.

Re: Christianity

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 2:29 am
by iambiguous
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 10:56 pm
iambiguous wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 9:53 pm I knew it! I knew he was Satyr!!
Busted!
Just out of curiosity, does he know you're him?

Re: Christianity

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 3:14 am
by Dubious
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 1:27 pm
Will you consider me skeptical and impetuous if I declare that you will not be able to describe a new metaphysical posture? Why? Because you seem invested in advanced descriptions of physical processes, relationships and events, and metaphysics for you is a domain of phantasy & projection.
"DAS EWIG WEIBLICHE ZIEHT UNS HINAN."
...concluding line from Goethe's Faust.

Consider metaphysics the feminine aspect of physics which leverages the latter into a world of its own vast inevitable projections, that is, into a domain functional for a species knowing that truth is that which guides it without any universal applicability otherwise encountered. Truth becomes indigenous within the domain of metaphysics at least temporarily; as such, it can never be absolute in any sense.

Projections have consequences indispensable for continuation delineating it through symbology which metaphysics is best able to employ converting the secular into the sacred.

Have I lost you once again?

Re: Christianity

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 3:19 am
by attofishpi
henry quirk wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 1:42 am
attofishpi wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 1:02 am Is this the thread where people with absolutely no personal experience of interactions with God and most of them being atheists, get to blab on and on about books they have read...about God!?

:P
Yes, among other self-aggrandizements and 'protest too much'-isms of the closeted and utterly soul-frightened theists.
Yes, pretty hard to speak of many years of interaction with the divine and a sage without being labelled 'self-aggrandising' (among a plethora of other things)

Re: Christianity

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 3:27 am
by Alexis Jacobi
attofishpi wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 1:02 amIs this the thread where people with absolutely no personal experience of interactions with God and most of them being atheists, get to blab on and on about books they have read...about God!?
This is an Internet forum where philosophy and philosophical musing goes on. That is by definition different from a confessional faith-exchange forum where — and this would be essential — people reveal some of the most intimate information about the most intimate subjects that are possible to discuss. For this reason, in my view, you tread over frontiers and boundaries that should be maintained. You go way too far in self-revelation — again in my opinion. (But do what you want or desire to, I just share my perspective).

Myself, I have objective interest in what is going on in our culture and our world. I speak about “spiritual orientation” from a distance. That is my predilection. My own spiritual life is not a topic of my conversation and it will never be. This is an Internet forum and it is not a place for the public sharing of extremely personal content.

It is just as inappropriate for me (or anyone) to comment (meaning apply assessments) to your extremely personal revelations of subjective experience as it is for you to put it out there. This is why I decline to comment.

The things I can talk about have to do with larger, more general cultural and social concerns. That is what I focus on. Those are “appropriate” topics in a philosophical environment.

Re: Christianity

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 3:33 am
by Alexis Jacobi
Dubious wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 3:14 amHave I lost you once again?
Perhaps. But the question can also be turned around. Are you “lost” and in any case what might that mean?

You are waxing murky. And I could suggest that is feminine territory (in an archetypal sense) and obfuscating.

Re: Christianity

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 3:37 am
by Alexis Jacobi
Dubious wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 3:14 am Projections have consequences indispensable for continuation, delineating it through symbology which metaphysics is best able to employ, converting the secular into the sacred.
The added commas help I think.

Months back I gleaned what your position is. Here you merely repeat it. And you have soundly avoided my challenge (I predicted you would).

As always (and for everyone) have it your way.

Re: Christianity

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 3:38 am
by attofishpi
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 3:27 am
attofishpi wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 1:02 amIs this the thread where people with absolutely no personal experience of interactions with God and most of them being atheists, get to blab on and on about books they have read...about God!?
This is an Internet forum where philosophy and philosophical musing goes on. That is by definition different from a confessional faith-exchange forum where — and this would be essential — people reveal some of the most intimate information about the most intimate subjects that are possible to discuss. For this reason, in my view, you tread over frontiers and boundaries that should be maintained. You go way too far in self-revelation — again in my opinion. (But do what you want or desire to, I just share my perspective).

Myself, I have objective interest in what is going on in our culture and our world. I speak about “spiritual orientation” from a distance. That is my predilection. My own spiritual life is not a topic of my conversation and it will never be. This is an Internet forum and it is not a place for the public sharing of extremely personal content.

It is just as inappropriate for me (or anyone) to comment (meaning apply assessments) to your extremely personal revelations of subjective experience as it is for you to put it out there. This is why I decline to comment.

The things I can talk about have to do with larger, more general cultural and social concerns. That is what I focus on. Those are “appropriate” topics in a philosophical environment.
Sure, but do you believe in God? Will you expose that much of yourself?
If you do have belief in God's existence, do you believe it (God) had any 'hand' in providing any or all of the content of the bible?

Re: Christianity

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 3:41 am
by Alexis Jacobi
iambiguous wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 2:29 am Just out of curiosity, does he know you're him?
That I doubt. He seems to have labeled you something of a lunatic. I don’t share his assessment. You are, according to me, uniambiguously shtuck.