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Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:24 pm
by Terrapin Station
Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:23 pm
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:16 pm
The purpose is that some phenomena only occur in brains, and some people claim that those phenomena occur elsewhere (only, or too).
You are saying the same shit in different words.
Yes. some phenomena only occur at some locations and not other locations.
Like the phenomenon of "life". It only occurs in this universe.
So what?
Again, so, some people claim otherwise. It's useful to have words in which to express disagreement about that.
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:24 pm
by Skepdick
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:24 pm
Again, so, some people claim otherwise. It's useful to have words in which to express disagreement about that.
What is the otherwise claim to "Some phenomena only occur at some locations and not other locations." ?
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:26 pm
by Terrapin Station
Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:24 pm
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:24 pm
Again, so, some people claim otherwise. It's useful to have words in which to express disagreement about that.
What is the otherwise claim to "Some phenomena only occur at some locations and not other locations." ?
Can you stop trolling?
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:26 pm
by Skepdick
Not trolling.
I am still unclear about the point of your point. Given that the principle is a clear truism.
Some phenomena only occur at some locations and not other locations.
SO WHAT?
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:29 pm
by Terrapin Station
Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:26 pm
Not trolling.
Then what's the problem?
What's the topic of the thread?
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:31 pm
by Skepdick
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:29 pm
Then what's the problem?
What's the topic of the thread?
The problem is the undecidability of distinctions.
Is the objective/subjective distinction objective or subjective?
Is it Indexical or non-indexical.
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:33 pm
by Terrapin Station
Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:31 pm
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:29 pm
Then what's the problem?
What's the topic of the thread?
The problem is the undecidability of distinctions.
Then how did you decide to use the word "undecidable" rather than "decidable"? (As well as the words "The" "problem," "is" etc.?)
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:36 pm
by Skepdick
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:33 pm
Then how did you decide to use the word "undecidable" rather than "decidable"? (As well as the words "The" "problem," "is" etc.?)
Trivially. I didn't know HOW to decide, therefore I used "undecidable".
not-P -> Q
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:38 pm
by Terrapin Station
Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:36 pm
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:33 pm
Then how did you decide to use the word "undecidable" rather than "decidable"? (As well as the words "The" "problem," "is" etc.?)
Trivially. I didn't know HOW to decide, therefore I used "undecidable".
Huh? So you mean you just went with one on a whim?
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:40 pm
by Skepdick
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:38 pm
Huh? So you mean you just went with one on a whim?
It's not a whim.
I couldn't decide! So I said "undecidable"
If you think it's decidable - tell me how.
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:42 pm
by Terrapin Station
Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:40 pm
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:38 pm
Huh? So you mean you just went with one on a whim?
It's not a whim.
I couldn't decide! So I said "undecidable"
That was a decision. If you choose to not decide, you still have made a choice.
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:46 pm
by Skepdick
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:42 pm
That was a decision. If you choose to not decide, you still have made a choice.
A choice is not a decision.
Decisions require information.
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:47 pm
by Terrapin Station
Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:46 pm
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:42 pm
That was a decision. If you choose to not decide, you still have made a choice.
A choice is not a decision.
Decisions require information.
Is that a distinction you've decided?
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:51 pm
by Skepdick
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:47 pm
Is that a distinction you've decided?
No. It's the default position.
Everything is distinct from everything else, right?
Sameness is a decision.
Difference is not.
Re: Is morality objective or subjective?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:59 pm
by Terrapin Station
Skepdick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:51 pm
Terrapin Station wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:47 pm
Is that a distinction you've decided?
No. It's the default position.
The "default position" per what?